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Old 08-29-2011, 08:11 PM
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Day time vids for the win
Thanks. Glad someone appreciates that fact. I wanted some good quality clear videos, I personally disguise videos where it's dark and you have to figure out which car is which by their headlights alone.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
Look man, your cars are pretty evenly matched. All these guys saying he's gonna kill you etc etc are blowing hot air. You could have SLAUGHTERED him on every one of those races if you took off properly: you do know you are supposed to GO on the third honk right? NOT wait until after you honk to then hit the gas? Especially from a roll, you should have been manually holding 1st gear instead of hitting the gas late and then waiting for it to downshift.

Your laggard ways on the launch easily make up for your friends slow shifting. His 5.0 will slowly pull on you past probably 70mph but that's it- a very slow pull.
You obviously have never been in or raced a 2011. No way is a 110mph car not gonna yank a stock auto fbody that might go 105. My brother went 12.7@113 with a 2.29 60' with just a tune and intake on street tires.
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
You obviously have never been in or raced a 2011. No way is a 110mph car not gonna yank a stock auto fbody that might go 105. My brother went 12.7@113 with a 2.29 60' with just a tune and intake on street tires.
I don't think he was saying that his car is actually faster. What he is saying is right actually. If he would have taken off at the same time as the 5.0 he would have won.
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nice vids, nice to see some daytime action.

OP: good races. i think a lot could be had from a proper launch and a timely launch. giving up the hit like that doesn't seem like much, but is quite a bit to make up with evenly matched cars. thankfully his slow shifts allowed your airplane gear to pull on past not having to shift.

my 273 car dropped .25 and gained 2 mph by going to 373s, with no other mods. at the time it had a lid only.

i don't see 110 mph in that mustang at all. it should've pulled a lot harder in gear to achieve something like that, be it some electronic driving aid or whatever, in its current state it was nowhere near 110. i'd put my lid/muffler ta up against it anyday. i'd yank the ******* doors off that mustang from a 10 mph roll. if he couldn't get out on a 273 a4 car he'd be in a world of trouble when i hit 3rd gear.
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Originally Posted by DoggyB22
Yea once he learns how to drive it... it will murder you. A catback only LS1 shouldn't beat a new 5.0
Murder him? Not really. Beat him yes
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Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
Murder him? Not really. Beat him yes
Idk, if it was a good driver he'd have almost a full second on me by the 1/4 mile. I have the 2.73's and an auto, with minor mods. Haven't been to the track yet, but I'm not expecting to break anything lower than 13.6.

A well driven new 5.0 with 3.73's, which this one has should be able to cut a 12.7 or so.

If you think it'd be a closer match though, please fill me in on how.
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Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
Murder him? Not really. Beat him yes
True^^. It won't be a murder, but when he learns to drive it good he will pull a cuple cars on you. Make sure you launch on the right time. Don't wait for him to go. Also when your going from a roll you need to hold it in gear...
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Originally Posted by z99ls1
True^^. It won't be a murder, but when he learns to drive it good he will pull a cuple cars on you. Make sure you launch on the right time. Don't wait for him to go. Also when your going from a roll you need to hold it in gear...
What do you mean by hold it in gear?

1st roll race was from 30MPH, I put the car in OD, and it was in 2nd gear by that speed.

2nd roll race was from 25MPH, car was still in OD, and I was still in 2nd gear by that speed.
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Originally Posted by WhiteKnight '01
Idk, if it was a good driver he'd have almost a full second on me by the 1/4 mile. I have the 2.73's and an auto, with minor mods. Haven't been to the track yet, but I'm not expecting to break anything lower than 13.6.

A well driven new 5.0 with 3.73's, which this one has should be able to cut a 12.7 or so.

If you think it'd be a closer match though, please fill me in on how.
I ran 13.5 bone stock. On stock 245 tires. Stock down to paper filter. This was even with 2000ft d/a. With a lid and catback I ran a 13.4, but the d/a was around 2500. Of course you do have 2.73's. If you can drive the car right it should do a 13.5 or better. Hurry and get a cuple mods on it and beat that 5.0
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Originally Posted by WhiteKnight '01
Idk, if it was a good driver he'd have almost a full second on me by the 1/4 mile. I have the 2.73's and an auto, with minor mods. Haven't been to the track yet, but I'm not expecting to break anything lower than 13.6.

A Very well driven new 5.0 with 3.73's, which this one has should be able to cut a 12.7 or so.

If you think it'd be a closer match though, please fill me in on how.
Didn't realize you had 2.73's my M6 lid, catback car ran a 12.7
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
You obviously have never been in or raced a 2011. No way is a 110mph car not gonna yank a stock auto fbody that might go 105. My brother went 12.7@113 with a 2.29 60' with just a tune and intake on street tires.
He actually setup one of the first races between an LS1 car and a 5.0 ever. My stock auto F-body went as high as 108 stock. Not all 5.0's trap 110+ alot are 107-109 with normal drivers. it is a drivers race but the 5.0 has the advantage but not enough to consider it not a drivers race.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odJQAq7l-hI
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Originally Posted by z99ls1
I ran 13.5 bone stock. On stock 245 tires. Stock down to paper filter. This was even with 2000ft d/a. With a lid and catback I ran a 13.4, but the d/a was around 2500. Of course you do have 2.73's. If you can drive the car right it should do a 13.5 or better. Hurry and get a cuple mods on it and beat that 5.0
Before I do any more performance mods I need to do some maintenance on the car. The rotors are warped, so when I get on the brakes the whole steering wheel and car vibrates pretty bad. Ride is getting sloppy and rough, so I'm getting a set of bilstein shocks. Then I need to change some fluids.

Next performance mod will probably be a P&P TB. Then after that may get some long tubes, but that won't be for awhile.
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Originally Posted by WhiteKnight '01
What do you mean by hold it in gear?

1st roll race was from 30MPH, I put the car in OD, and it was in 2nd gear by that speed.

2nd roll race was from 25MPH, car was still in OD, and I was still in 2nd gear by that speed.
yea exactly my point. What rpm's were you at at 25-30? You need to drop it down in first from that slow of a roll race....
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Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
He actually setup one of the first races between an LS1 car and a 5.0 ever. My stock auto F-body went as high as 108 stock. Not all 5.0's trap 110+ alot are 107-109 with normal drivers. it is a drivers race but the 5.0 has the advantage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odJQAq7l-hI
Ahh, this video was a major inspiration for me. Gave me some dim hope going into the race seeing a mostly stock LS1 beating out a 5.0. I loosely based my video editing off of this video also. I only hope I can reach somewhere near the sheer number of views that video has as well.
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Originally Posted by z99ls1
yea exactly my point. What rpm's were you at at 25-30? You need to drop it down in first from that slow of a roll race....
Probably around 1,200 RPM I would guess?

When you say drop it down in 1st, you mean actually put the car into 1? Then manually shift it to 2nd when the RPM's go up? And then to OD after that?

Have never done that with this car, not all too familiar with how that works. Seems sorta like I would be manually shifting an auto?> Would that give me a greater advantage?
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Originally Posted by WhiteKnight '01
Ahh, this video was a major inspiration for me. Gave me some dim hope going into the race seeing a mostly stock LS1 beating out a 5.0. I loosely based my video editing off of this video also. I only hope I can reach somewhere near the sheer number of views that video has as well.
the reason it has 127,000 views is really because it was literally one of the first races between a 5.0 and an LS1 car. The only reason I couldn't make some $$ off the video is because I used that damn copyrighted song lol I know better now
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Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
the reason it has 127,000 views is really because it was literally one of the first races between a 5.0 and an LS1 car. The only reason I couldn't make some $$ off the video is because I used that damn copyrighted song lol I know better now
And I used a 3 Days Grace song, so even if I got that many views I probably can't make money off it either huh?
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Originally Posted by WhiteKnight '01
Probably around 1,200 RPM I would guess?

When you say drop it down in 1st, you mean actually put the car into 1? Then manually shift it to 2nd when the RPM's go up? And then to OD after that?

Have never done that with this car, not all too familiar with how that works. Seems sorta like I would be manually shifting an auto?> Would that give me a greater advantage?
Be careful when doing the bump shift with the auto LS1 cars they dont shift instantly and you will end up like I did in this race I could have beat both the 03 cobra and the GTO

http://www.streetfire.net/video/ws6-...ert_642319.htm
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Originally Posted by WhiteKnight '01
And I used a 3 Days Grace song, so even if I got that many views I probably can't make money off it either huh?
correct you cant have any copyrighted material in your video that you dont own or you cant
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Every roll race you did you got murdered so bad right off the bat because your letting the car downshift. You need to hold it down in first gear so your already in the powerband and you don't have to wait on the car to downshift. If you would have done this you most likely would have won. An auto can be just as fast if not faster from a roll if you do it right.
This is me against my friends cammed/bolt-on 6-speed trans am.... We go at the same time and I slightly pull on him. He ends up coming around me on the top end, but I held up very well for stock internal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJYZV...el_video_title


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