Goat vs 5.0
09-22-2011, 11:50 AM
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My 2012 5.0 shows up Monday. I have a GTO and Z06 in the garage to play with it. It will be interesting to line them all up and see the differences.
Most ls2 GTOs I've seen dyno are 330-340 stock.
Most ls2 GTOs I've seen dyno are 330-340 stock.
09-22-2011, 11:50 AM
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I agree, although with full exhaust and tune the gto would be around 380hp but still the only thing that makes sense is the driver of the goat is better for the simple fact that the goat weighs more and has less hp and with equal drivers the goat would never win. But that's the street and anything can happen and this time the goat has a better driver
09-22-2011, 11:51 AM
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LS2 GTO is no joke. totally respect them. remove the overweight stuff and they run like they should. IMO. nothing suprising to me about this result. i would not expect to do a lot better. ill never own a Boss intake. ill give up peak number to keep 20rwtq across the powerband.
i make 387rwtq, and a boss intake makes 349-360rwtq if i switched to it. ill pass.
as a matter of fact, when i do cam it i will still keep the stock intake. it a monstrous torque advantage then.
theory and practicality dont match in this case. kinda like you guys are saying. dyno queens a bit.
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09-22-2011, 12:18 PM
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these are tuned/cai/catback vs tuned/cai/catback with boss intake.
a tuned 5.0 makes 400rwhp and around 385rwtq.
the boss is gutless down low.
http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-foru...485-post1.html
a tuned 5.0 makes 400rwhp and around 385rwtq.
the boss is gutless down low.
http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-foru...485-post1.html
09-22-2011, 12:21 PM
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09-22-2011, 12:36 PM
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these are tuned/cai/catback vs tuned/cai/catback with boss intake.
a tuned 5.0 makes 400rwhp and around 385rwtq.
the boss is gutless down low.
http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-foru...485-post1.html
a tuned 5.0 makes 400rwhp and around 385rwtq.
the boss is gutless down low.
http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-foru...485-post1.html
09-22-2011, 12:58 PM
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This is the reason why they get down a dragstrip decent when they have a pile of gear and enough traction. It is also the same reason why you see many of them are not performing on the street. To peaky and the driver really has to be on his game to make it work. I can post a graph of my bolt-on ls6 if you would like to compare.
09-22-2011, 01:40 PM
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Before we ran i was not expecting to win considerin all the hype on forums about 5.0 stock with drag radials run a 12.5 now to believe that id have to see it are run a dif stang.
09-22-2011, 01:55 PM
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NEVER? you sure about that?
LS2 GTO is no joke. totally respect them. remove the overweight stuff and they run like they should. IMO. nothing suprising to me about this result. i would not expect to do a lot better. ill never own a Boss intake. ill give up peak number to keep 20rwtq across the powerband.
i make 387rwtq, and a boss intake makes 349-360rwtq if i switched to it. ill pass.
as a matter of fact, when i do cam it i will still keep the stock intake. it a monstrous torque advantage then.
theory and practicality dont match in this case. kinda like you guys are saying. dyno queens a bit.
LS2 GTO is no joke. totally respect them. remove the overweight stuff and they run like they should. IMO. nothing suprising to me about this result. i would not expect to do a lot better. ill never own a Boss intake. ill give up peak number to keep 20rwtq across the powerband.
i make 387rwtq, and a boss intake makes 349-360rwtq if i switched to it. ill pass.
as a matter of fact, when i do cam it i will still keep the stock intake. it a monstrous torque advantage then.
theory and practicality dont match in this case. kinda like you guys are saying. dyno queens a bit.
I made over 400wtq with a Boss intake. Also most people don't rev there engine to where it needs be to take advantage of the Boss. Or do they have the gear to take advantage of the Boss. To have the Boss on teh 5.0 you need to rev it to 7800 rpms and have least 3.73 gears.
As we all know anything happens on the street. Driver seemed a little better in the GTO..It happens. Also on teh street you are not going to be able to launch the car with teh boss like you can at the track. With my car launch below 5k it really wants to bog off the line. I launch at 6k and its perfect..
09-22-2011, 02:14 PM
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imo a boss intake is great for 6000-7000 rpm drops, slicks, optimized rear suspension, clutch, etc at the track, or on a road course.
the fastest 5.0's at the track are boss intakes, but need to be run hard. on the street a stocker is better. IMO.
the JPC 507rwhp car made 480rwhp with the stock intake , but more torque than the boss.
for the street LT's, cams, tune, cai should = 460rwhp. and a load of torque.
in the end, the GTO lost, but hung in there. the 5.0 had everything going for it. more power. less weight more than likely. a loss is a loss.
the coyote is more than 420rwhp with those mods, and the gto is 380rwhp with those also. IMO
the fastest 5.0's at the track are boss intakes, but need to be run hard. on the street a stocker is better. IMO.
the JPC 507rwhp car made 480rwhp with the stock intake , but more torque than the boss.
for the street LT's, cams, tune, cai should = 460rwhp. and a load of torque.
in the end, the GTO lost, but hung in there. the 5.0 had everything going for it. more power. less weight more than likely. a loss is a loss.
the coyote is more than 420rwhp with those mods, and the gto is 380rwhp with those also. IMO
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09-22-2011, 03:37 PM
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imo a boss intake is great for 6000-7000 rpm drops, slicks, optimized rear suspension, clutch, etc at the track, or on a road course.
the fastest 5.0's at the track are boss intakes, but need to be run hard. on the street a stocker is better. IMO.
the JPC 507rwhp car made 480rwhp with the stock intake , but more torque than the boss.
for the street LT's, cams, tune, cai should = 460rwhp. and a load of torque.
in the end, the GTO lost, but hung in there. the 5.0 had everything going for it. more power. less weight more than likely. a loss is a loss.
the coyote is more than 420rwhp with those mods, and the gto is 380rwhp with those also. IMO
the fastest 5.0's at the track are boss intakes, but need to be run hard. on the street a stocker is better. IMO.
the JPC 507rwhp car made 480rwhp with the stock intake , but more torque than the boss.
for the street LT's, cams, tune, cai should = 460rwhp. and a load of torque.
in the end, the GTO lost, but hung in there. the 5.0 had everything going for it. more power. less weight more than likely. a loss is a loss.
the coyote is more than 420rwhp with those mods, and the gto is 380rwhp with those also. IMO
On the street the Boss will be better. When you are street racing you should be starting at higher rpm's. Roll racing. Which then you are in your power band.
I lost no wtq under 5000 rpm's. Combined with LT's I didn't lose down low either.
09-22-2011, 03:49 PM
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NOt to mention the what 10wtq you lose in mid range is well made up in the upper rpms where you gain over 30whp. Starting the gains at 6k+. WHich in a street race is where you shoudl be starting anyway. Specially in a roll race. Specially revving the engine to 7800rpms.
09-22-2011, 04:53 PM
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imo a boss intake is great for 6000-7000 rpm drops, slicks, optimized rear suspension, clutch, etc at the track, or on a road course.
the fastest 5.0's at the track are boss intakes, but need to be run hard. on the street a stocker is better. IMO.
the JPC 507rwhp car made 480rwhp with the stock intake , but more torque than the boss.
for the street LT's, cams, tune, cai should = 460rwhp. and a load of torque.
in the end, the GTO lost, but hung in there. the 5.0 had everything going for it. more power. less weight more than likely. a loss is a loss.
the coyote is more than 420rwhp with those mods, and the gto is 380rwhp with those also. IMO
the fastest 5.0's at the track are boss intakes, but need to be run hard. on the street a stocker is better. IMO.
the JPC 507rwhp car made 480rwhp with the stock intake , but more torque than the boss.
for the street LT's, cams, tune, cai should = 460rwhp. and a load of torque.
in the end, the GTO lost, but hung in there. the 5.0 had everything going for it. more power. less weight more than likely. a loss is a loss.
the coyote is more than 420rwhp with those mods, and the gto is 380rwhp with those also. IMO