Got called out by a stang the other day
12-08-2011, 10:43 AM
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i dont mind the rant, and think it was over a bolt on mach vs a bolt on ls1, i only ran mach, he had bolts on, i was bolt ons,ms4, we went from a 40 roll and it wasnt even close, it was more my race but that was the only run in i have had with one, maybe he missed a shift or something but im sure bolt on vs bolt on it would be a pretty easy win
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12-08-2011, 11:17 AM
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You really are not that smart are you. Redlight doesn't affect ET.
Most LS1 Fbodies M6s can't run a real tire unless it has another rear swap in it and even then hope the stock POS clutch and stick pedal can work-a Mach can do it with petty bolt ons and gear. A good hole shot means the Mach has the advantage from a stop if its running a non radial tire. Stock to stock they are close with LS1 having advantage above 95 or so MPH. With bolt ons the F body has the advantage especially above 90MPH. Its not such an easy win as you think or post.
Most LS1 Fbodies M6s can't run a real tire unless it has another rear swap in it and even then hope the stock POS clutch and stick pedal can work-a Mach can do it with petty bolt ons and gear. A good hole shot means the Mach has the advantage from a stop if its running a non radial tire. Stock to stock they are close with LS1 having advantage above 95 or so MPH. With bolt ons the F body has the advantage especially above 90MPH. Its not such an easy win as you think or post.
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..all you have to do is remove the intake and all front pulleys such as water pump (takes 10 mins) balancer(not that much longer) and in less than 3 hours you can be rocking a new "bolt in"cam...So calling a cam swap a bolt on for an LS1 is very practical considering the cheap price and the ease of doing it.
I don't care who you are or what you "know", a cam is not a "bolt-on" and neither is anything else that requires opening an engine...oh wait a supercharger "bolts on" to your engine, so does a turbo...or a nitrous kit...are those "bolt-ons" too?
12-08-2011, 11:55 AM
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NO *******, this is from someone with a blown LS1 who has vids of myself racing (UNLIKE you, wheres yours at?..makes you the benchracer then) and also with more than 1 freaking post (it's probally just Stopsign making a new account LOL seeing as how the car looks the same) . Saying "I hope my cars runs 10's now" is for many reasons, such as I have fixed alot of previous issues my car had as well as going to better rear end and better gears so it should be 10's now but thats not bench racing for someone who has many vids up of him bitch smacking Mustangs at the track!!..cams are considered boltons in alot of ppl's books..see unlike a Ford OHC or DOHC engine it does'nt require your whole weekend..all you have to do is remove the intake and all front pulleys such as water pump (takes 10 mins) balancer(not that much longer) and in less than 3 hours you can be rocking a new "bolt in"cam. Putting two or four cams in and one cam for an LS1 is a big price difference cost around 400 bucks or less!!, and DOHCs for let's say, a Mach 1 ..ohhh around 1000 bucks. So calling a cam swap a bolt on for an LS1 is very practical considering the cheap price and the ease of doing it.
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12-08-2011, 12:15 PM
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You really are not that smart are you. Redlight doesn't affect ET.
Most LS1 Fbodies M6s can't run a real tire unless it has another rear swap in it and even then hope the stock POS clutch and stick pedal can work-a Mach can do it with petty bolt ons and gear. A good hole shot means the Mach has the advantage from a stop if its running a non radial tire. Stock to stock they are close with LS1 having advantage above 95 or so MPH. With bolt ons the F body has the advantage especially above 90MPH. Its not such an easy win as you think or post.
Most LS1 Fbodies M6s can't run a real tire unless it has another rear swap in it and even then hope the stock POS clutch and stick pedal can work-a Mach can do it with petty bolt ons and gear. A good hole shot means the Mach has the advantage from a stop if its running a non radial tire. Stock to stock they are close with LS1 having advantage above 95 or so MPH. With bolt ons the F body has the advantage especially above 90MPH. Its not such an easy win as you think or post.
12-08-2011, 12:21 PM
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no *** clown OHC or DOHC Ford motors are NOT any easier to get the cams out ..you STILL have to remove the timing chain, wich has a cover that needs removed, and to remove the cover you have to remove the balancer, so EVERYTHING has to come off the engine!!...i've helped a freind do it on his Ford Lightning...it ******* sucked ballsz..it was much easier on a LS1.
12-08-2011, 12:26 PM
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Blue and white are different colors i believe... and so what you are saying is a cam is a bolt on so for my car it would be four bolt on's? And as far as how long it takes you to put in a cam you are full of **** plain and simple and how much it cost's depends on the cam and other components you MAY need does it not?
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12-08-2011, 12:34 PM
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oh..i'm srry man lol...i'm just in a defend myself mode since i'm being attacked by ppl who know nothing about cam prices and install times..they think because they have never done a cam swap, and CANT' do a cam swap themselves..they assume if it's not some 10 min bolt like a CAI is..then there is no way a cam is a bolt on...guy's cams are easy to install..ESPECIALLY on LS1's...taking out my 10 bolt rear and swaping it for my Moser 12 bolt took me maybe 5 hours..a total of maybe 20 bolts to do it..I call that a bolt on..but since there are ppl on this site who would'nt even know where to start when swapping a rear end out..they consider it a none bolton and would no doubt take it to a shop just to get it done!
just cause there are ppl who cant' work on thier on cars, does'nt change that for some mechanicly inclined ppl alot of parts are merely bolt ons and can be done simply in your garage with BASIC HAND TOOLS!! and maybe a borrowed part or 2 from your local O Rileys
just cause there are ppl who cant' work on thier on cars, does'nt change that for some mechanicly inclined ppl alot of parts are merely bolt ons and can be done simply in your garage with BASIC HAND TOOLS!! and maybe a borrowed part or 2 from your local O Rileys
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all you guys saying i'm full of **** OBVIOUSLY have never done a cam swap before on ANY car!!...and how much it cost is too easy **** nugget...simply get online and price a nice set of DOHC's for a Mach 1..then go to Texas speeds website and price their cams for a LS1..if you think 1 cam is gona cost more than 4 cams..your are mistaken
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Oh and BTW, thanks for being an LS1 nutswinging fanboy of the worst level...
YOU ARE FULL OF ****!!! A CAM IS NOT A BOLT-ON ON ANY ENGINE!! THE ONLY WAY A CAM SWAP TAKES 3 HOURS IS IF THE ENGINE IS ON A STAND!!
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yes I agree with you on that , cams are'nt that hard especially on single cam GM V8's.These OHC Ford motors require more money for parts and 2 or 4 cams will always cost more than one new cam..buying them used is a different story..but yes degreeing the cams only gets harder and more time consuming the more cams you have..wich is why it's much easier to call a cam swap on a LS1 a simple 3-4 hour bolt on..and a cam swap on let's say a Mach 1 or a Ford Lightning..5 hours to all freaking day job.
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Yep, all the parts in my sig magically appeared there one weekend, and a cam mysteriously appeared in my buddys TBSS...oh and i definitely didn't change any cams at UTI almost 10 years ago when I went there...and I never pulled the cams out of the numerous diesel truck engines I've rebuilt over the years....sorry, I forgot,this is the internet, where your right and everyone else is wrong. Oh and BTW, thanks for being an LS1 nutswinging fanboy of the worst level...
YOU ARE FULL OF ****!!! A CAM IS NOT A BOLT-ON ON ANY ENGINE!! THE ONLY WAY A CAM SWAP TAKES 3 HOURS IS IF THE ENGINE IS ON A STAND!!
Oh and BTW, thanks for being an LS1 nutswinging fanboy of the worst level...YOU ARE FULL OF ****!!! A CAM IS NOT A BOLT-ON ON ANY ENGINE!! THE ONLY WAY A CAM SWAP TAKES 3 HOURS IS IF THE ENGINE IS ON A STAND!!
do you consider these botons??
.exhaust is a bolton?
are injectors boltons?
are headers boltons?
how bout rims??
how bout an intakes such as a FAST?