Cam only Z28 vs full bolt on WS6
03-22-2012, 02:17 AM
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Cam only Z28 vs full bolt on WS6 The first car is a 2000 Z28. It was pretty much bone stock except for a magnaflow catback and SLP lid. My buddy is cheap so he wanted to do a cam only with a 228r with new valve springs and hardened pushrods . He is running stock exhaust manifolds, stock tune, stock everything else.
The second car is a 2002 WS6 with full bolt ons. Pacesetter headers, ORY, SLP LM1, LS6 intake, SLP UD pulley, SSRA, ported throttle body and it's been dyno tuned.
Both cars are M6 with stock 3:42 gears. Both drivers are about equally skilled.
They lined up and ran from a dig twice and both times were too close to call on who won. It was literally less than inches between the two cars.
We were impressed that the cammed car was able to hang with the full bolt on car. We thought the bolt on car would have pulled a little. The bolt on car dynoed at just under 400 rwhp. It should be interesting to see what the 228r does on the dyno.
The second car is a 2002 WS6 with full bolt ons. Pacesetter headers, ORY, SLP LM1, LS6 intake, SLP UD pulley, SSRA, ported throttle body and it's been dyno tuned.
Both cars are M6 with stock 3:42 gears. Both drivers are about equally skilled.
They lined up and ran from a dig twice and both times were too close to call on who won. It was literally less than inches between the two cars.
We were impressed that the cammed car was able to hang with the full bolt on car. We thought the bolt on car would have pulled a little. The bolt on car dynoed at just under 400 rwhp. It should be interesting to see what the 228r does on the dyno.
03-22-2012, 02:33 AM
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The first car is a 2000 Z28. It was pretty much bone stock except for a magnaflow catback and SLP lid. My buddy is cheap so he wanted to do a cam only with a 228r with new valve springs and hardened pushrods . He is running stock exhaust manifolds, stock tune, stock everything else.
The second car is a 2002 WS6 with full bolt ons. Pacesetter headers, ORY, SLP LM1, LS6 intake, SLP UD pulley, SSRA, ported throttle body and it's been dyno tuned.
Both cars are M6 with stock 3:42 gears. Both drivers are about equally skilled.
They lined up and ran from a dig twice and both times were too close to call on who won. It was literally less than inches between the two cars.
We were impressed that the cammed car was able to hang with the full bolt on car. We thought the bolt on car would have pulled a little. The bolt on car dynoed at just under 400 rwhp. It should be interesting to see what the 228r does on the dyno.
The second car is a 2002 WS6 with full bolt ons. Pacesetter headers, ORY, SLP LM1, LS6 intake, SLP UD pulley, SSRA, ported throttle body and it's been dyno tuned.
Both cars are M6 with stock 3:42 gears. Both drivers are about equally skilled.
They lined up and ran from a dig twice and both times were too close to call on who won. It was literally less than inches between the two cars.
We were impressed that the cammed car was able to hang with the full bolt on car. We thought the bolt on car would have pulled a little. The bolt on car dynoed at just under 400 rwhp. It should be interesting to see what the 228r does on the dyno.
03-22-2012, 03:42 AM
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The first car is a 2000 Z28. It was pretty much bone stock except for a magnaflow catback and SLP lid. My buddy is cheap so he wanted to do a cam only with a 228r with new valve springs and hardened pushrods . He is running stock exhaust manifolds, stock tune, stock everything else.
The second car is a 2002 WS6 with full bolt ons. Pacesetter headers, ORY, SLP LM1, LS6 intake, SLP UD pulley, SSRA, ported throttle body and it's been dyno tuned.
Both cars are M6 with stock 3:42 gears. Both drivers are about equally skilled.
They lined up and ran from a dig twice and both times were too close to call on who won. It was literally less than inches between the two cars.
We were impressed that the cammed car was able to hang with the full bolt on car. We thought the bolt on car would have pulled a little. The bolt on car dynoed at just under 400 rwhp. It should be interesting to see what the 228r does on the dyno.
The second car is a 2002 WS6 with full bolt ons. Pacesetter headers, ORY, SLP LM1, LS6 intake, SLP UD pulley, SSRA, ported throttle body and it's been dyno tuned.
Both cars are M6 with stock 3:42 gears. Both drivers are about equally skilled.
They lined up and ran from a dig twice and both times were too close to call on who won. It was literally less than inches between the two cars.
We were impressed that the cammed car was able to hang with the full bolt on car. We thought the bolt on car would have pulled a little. The bolt on car dynoed at just under 400 rwhp. It should be interesting to see what the 228r does on the dyno.
1) LS6 Intakes came stock on 01-02's.
2)Why was the Camaro running the car with stock manifolds, un-tuned?
3)What kind of magical dyno was the WS6 on to make almost 400whp with just bolt-ons?
That is all.
03-22-2012, 06:05 AM
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I talked to the guy with the WS6 and he said it made 384rwhp on a dynojet. I was a little skeptical but didn't feel like arguing with him because he's so pleased with those numbers.
It was dynoed by a sponsor on the forum but I'll leave their name out of it instead of giving them a bad name.
It was dynoed by a sponsor on the forum but I'll leave their name out of it instead of giving them a bad name.
03-23-2012, 12:32 PM
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He must have been using one of those phone app dyno thingies, lol. Well I dont have a clue as to why anyone would run a cam with no tune regardless of how cheap he is and not having LT's just goes to show he completely waisted time and money doing the cam swap to begin with. Get some LT's and atleast a mail order tune from Frost if you dont want to spend the big bucks on dyno tune. When i got 350rwhp i was shocked and questioned the operator of the dyno to make sure everything was inputed correctly and i need the numbers to be realistic not blown up. I dont know how someone can walk around saying he is getting 385+rwhp from a bolt on LS1 without questioning it.
03-23-2012, 02:57 PM
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I doubt a 228 cam only would get you past 330 hp at the wheels ,maybe I am wrong . 400 hp bolt on's only is hard to believe ! For example ,a while back my friend hit 400 rwhp with full bolt ons and ms3 cam ,ls6 intake ,speed density tune. Fast intake and throttle body brought it to about 428 hp from what I remember. Seeing some really high numbers lately from bolt on car's on this site !
03-23-2012, 03:02 PM
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