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Old 04-23-2012, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
The same reason people cant accpet my intake,tune,exhaust 6.1 put a hurting on multiple full bolt on mach 1's. Beat stock 5.0's and 03 Cobras from a roll....its a Mopar so its automatically slow
Lol relax I post a video of a bolt on lt1 giving one Hell. My point was anything can happen on the street just because op had a good race with one doesn't mean it can't happen because of what the internet says they should run Or whoevers boyfriend runs so in so time. Not everyone going to run 12s in that car Or not "All" are going to beat every ls1 on the block. So be open minded a little bit more.. yes the 392 is fast but one little mistake like a mis shift Or a short shift can cost it a race to a ls1..
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My car being a full bolt on would get walked by a 392 no doubt. Must have been a terrible driver or not a 392. Atleast OP got the win
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Ohio they pretty have no choice but to be stock. They cant be tuned with the exception of a handful of guys running a b&g "tuned" ecm. Those r still up in the air if they offer and real gains.

The most someone can do is mild bolton. Even if they put long tubes on the car it wont be able to get the most out of them without a real tune.

Its 100% legit that there are several of these things running low low 12's bone stock. With that being said they have more running 13's with mediocre drivers in high da.

Basically whatever u say a stock 5.0 is capable of consider the same for the 392. They are pretty damn close in performance with the 392 having a slight edge. I know u will wanna debate that being that you own a 5.0 but im just being honest here.
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Originally Posted by gs462
Bone stock means stock tires too, im pretty sure it didnt get into the mid 12s on the stock tires, agreed on the ridiculous threads.
No, its your comment that's ridiculous. Try to do some research before you make a bold statement like that.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/automotiv...super-bee.html

"Our test car did the 0-to-60-mph dash in 4.2 seconds, 0-to-100 in 9.8, and the quarter-mile in 12.6 at 115 mph. Those numbers are a significant improvement over those of the last Charger SRT8 we tested; that car hit those same marks in 4.6 and 11.0, respectively, covering the quarter in 13.1 at 110.
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I believe It was Inside Line that wen't 12.5 at 114 in a Challenger 392. I have several MOPAR buddies that have gone quicker than that in their 392's.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
So I/e is stock?

But yes those as times it posted. Was funny a stock looking/sounding RT challenger was running just as good.
"I/E" stands for Inaugural Edition my friend. His car is Bone-stock down to the paper filter.
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Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
The manual 392's do run slower but their trap speeds are still 110-115 it can be done.


2011 M6 392 Bone Stock with Stock Tires
1.933 60 ft
8.320 1/8 @ 87.87 mph
12.769 1/4 @ 113.35 mph
Alabama International Dragway
Steele, Alabama

That's the one I included in my post. As I said if they all ran record passes I wouldn't have said what I did. The list tells me as long as you don't run into that one 392 it will be a close race (please notice I never said the ls1 was winning). All I have is the data provided by CT, if you have data showing a ton of M6 392s trapping 113+ I'll change my mind.
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i think the tires that come on todays musclecars are very impressive and offer a lot of performance. that is why many cannot fathom mid/low 12s on a stock tire. the tires they come with are three times the price of the BF GOODRICH tire on my WS6. these new tires have the performance close to a nitto 555r of ten years ago. much better than what these cars had stock 15 years ago lol. then you factor in the catbacks on the new cars lose basically no power compared to a 10+ hp loss on a fbody.

the tires on the cayman are close to $3000 lol i think the boss uses similar ones too.
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Last time i checked the 392's come with Goodyears F1 Supercars or RSA's both of which are ****!! And i kno this first hand.
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I guess 392 driver was bad. I would give the edge to the Challenger. Why plp are in denial that the SRT8 will run 114-116 stock? Its funny, when plp see their Ford or Chevy runs xx@xxxmph in any mags like Car n Driver, they say:''Come on, those guys suck at driving, a real driver would do better'' But when every mags runs from 114-116, they dont believe it..silly
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Originally Posted by Johnnystock
I guess 392 driver was bad. I would give the edge to the Challenger. Why plp are in denial that the SRT8 will run 114-116 stock? Its funny, when plp see their Ford or Chevy runs xx@xxxmph in any mags like Car n Driver, they say:''Come on, those guys suck at driving, a real driver would do better'' But when every mags runs from 114-116, they dont believe it..silly
114-116 from stock 392s? Where are you seeing that?

As for Magazines...
  • They use GPS timing to get their results
  • They correct their results to 'ideal conditions'

Simply can't compare their results to actual track results.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
They run 1`3's here. So that is what they run till I see one run different in person. And lower 12's with tune and bolt ons. oh and mid 11's with some bolt ons and a 100 shot. I have already proved this once.
Yep, I've seen a 5.0l run 13s@106...They all run this way till I see one faster. Your logic is different when its not a 5.0l heh? Youre all over the place to say that all stock 5.0l will run 12@117 with tires only.
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
114-116 from stock 392s? Where are you seeing that?

As for Magazines...
  • They use GPS timing to get their results
  • They correct their results to 'ideal conditions'

Simply can't compare their results to actual track results.
Sometimes to head to the track BTW, not defending em. Youre just reinforcing what I'm saying; if the results please you, you take em as a fact, but if not, you say their numbers are bullshit. Altough 116 might be stretch..lol I thought I saw that somewhere but I cant find it anymore
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Originally Posted by GotHemi?
Ohio they pretty have no choice but to be stock. They cant be tuned with the exception of a handful of guys running a b&g "tuned" ecm. Those r still up in the air if they offer and real gains.

The most someone can do is mild bolton. Even if they put long tubes on the car it wont be able to get the most out of them without a real tune.

Its 100% legit that there are several of these things running low low 12's bone stock. With that being said they have more running 13's with mediocre drivers in high da.

Basically whatever u say a stock 5.0 is capable of consider the same for the 392. They are pretty damn close in performance with the 392 having a slight edge. I know u will wanna debate that being that you own a 5.0 but im just being honest here.

those B&G guys are getting knock. hyper-pathetic pistons don't like knock....tick, tick, tick....
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Lol all depends on how much knock.
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LXmodguy over on the forums has taken his 392 to an 11.9x.....and there is no tuning for them yet...lol.

A stock F-body and newer model year RT is more comparable. New RT models have been cranking out low 13's stock.
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Originally Posted by Johnnystock
Sometimes to head to the track BTW, not defending em. Youre just reinforcing what I'm saying; if the results please you, you take em as a fact, but if not, you say their numbers are bullshit. Altough 116 might be stretch..lol I thought I saw that somewhere but I cant find it anymore
I take things with proof as fact, someone on ls1tech telling me they all trap 114-116 doesn't work for me.

I'm not exactly clueless, I just talked to red Barron about 20mins ago as he was putting a something special on a 6.1L srt8.
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Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
The manual 392's do run slower but their trap speeds are still 110-115 it can be done.


2011 M6 392 Bone Stock with Stock Tires
1.933 60 ft
8.320 1/8 @ 87.87 mph
12.769 1/4 @ 113.35 mph
Alabama International Dragway
Steele, Alabama

Thats 2mph more than what a buddy trapped in a lid, Ported stock TB, muffler delete 02 ss f-body, on street tires with leather and a 270-300lb driver. I can see a "stockish" f-body pulling one with a shitty driver. That same SS went 107 bone stock down to the filter.
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I honestly doubt a near stock fbody could pull one from a roll. As I said I think it would be a close race. Maybe I'm wrong but the data out there is what I'm using to base this on.

The night Red Barron was here racing I was a tenth slower and half a mph slower. That was with me driving both cars (his 392 IE and my z28).
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Originally Posted by Johnnystock
Yep, I've seen a 5.0l run 13s@106...They all run this way till I see one faster. Your logic is different when its not a 5.0l heh? Youre all over the place to say that all stock 5.0l will run 12@117 with tires only.
I have seen 5.0's run mid 12's stock. And have seen them run 13's as well. Also seen them run 11.00 with bolt ons. Have yet to see a 392 run better then 13.0 stock. One at local track ran a 12.4 but had exhaust/cold air and who knows what else. He claimed it was stock also till he had his hood open cooling and we looked at it.
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