You would be correct if we was talking about the early 80's back . But with the aftermarket (including Ford Racing ) the gap is closer than you may think. I remember a build of a traditional (Non LS ) Chevrolet 350 vs Ford 351 W and the cost/ power production was very close. Ford
Modular Motors have way more parts etc so that would be moot point to argue.

 

Here is how I look at this:

Mileage--- LS1 car is high mileage.....Stang is still a young whipper snapper
Technology Age---- Camaro Built 10+ years ago vs 2013GT technology---
Pushrod V8 vs fords fancy new stuff------


And it still kept up with it. I just think that after all this time, investment, and planning on fords new flagship motor/design that they'd be able to toast an ole' high mileage bolt on LS. rofl! But, the one thing they did get right, is when you slap some bolt ons and mods on the 5.0....it too will come alive.

 

The way I look at it is that who ever has the most money is going to win. No matter what you buy something faster will come out. Good runs, I like both cars.

 

My buddy just got a new 5.0 and he also just got Barton Industries Short Shifter and Bracket, JLT Carbon Fiber Cold air intake, Ford racing K Spring drop kit (2 inch), J&M Extreme Joint Rear Lower Control Arms, J&M Adjustable Panhard Rod, SCT iTSX Wireless Tuner And Custom tune from Bama Racing... He's claiming he'll have 500 hp after that. Which I think is BS... I need to beat him with full bolt ons, 4.10's, and a 224r cam... Doable? I also have a 100 shot I might throw on if I think I can't beat it without.

 

The new mustangs are sharp, my buddy just got a 2013 GT automatic. It has a cold air kit and axle back exhaust, it was going to get a tune but SCT has nothing for an automatic yet supposedly. He took it to the track bone stock and ran 8.63. Hopefully we will be taking it back soon since it has the exhaust and has had all four lightweight racing wheels added. It is an impressive car, but for the HP numbers they claim I don't see the performance.

 

So he claims 500hp from a tune and CAI. BS. you will beat him if your car is in good health. Go with ported heads before nitrous too.

 

8.63? That's pretty weak, my Camaro can run an 8.6...and it's slow.

 

Part for part they might be the same, but $$ per HP will never be close. The 4.6 2V mod motors will always be the LSx's BITCH.

 

Yea hopefully I'll be able to take him and remind him it took me $25k less.

 

Nice runs! I ran my friend's 2011 5.0 MN6, and from a stop I beat him 4 out of 4 times with the stock Z28 DD automatic. I am fairly sure the Z28 does not break 300 to the wheel.

 

ohio...?

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...ube-346-n.html

 

Here is something to think about: Even though the 5.0 is new, it is still part of the mod motor family. It is a lot cheaper to build one than you guys are giving credit for.

Did you know that you can buy a used factory forged Cobra crank and Terminator H-beam rods and they bolt right into the new 5.0's

 

Who in the hell buys used crank & rods?

 

People on a budget...?

 

The conversation was about how cheap to build, and using used factory take out parts is a great option if you are on a budget.


I've built several engine with used parts, nothing wrong with it IMO.

 

He is smoking crack. He will not have 500hp with them mods. Specially that tune. They make one the weakest tunes out there. He will be luckyy to break 405whp with that tune.

 

Notice it isn't a LS1. And look what done to it. He said LS1 not a sleeved every thing LS2. So wrong again. Also see some one says best case dyno with 50 degree day etc etc.

 

I have no problem with used parts (for the most part) but I would never go as far as running junk internals in my build - especially connecting rods. A good crank maybe, but rods - No way!

 

Terminators come with Manley H-beam rods, I'd run them in a skinny minute.

 

I am aware of this. Hence the name, "Redfire".