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Old 05-08-2012, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
How did you accomplish this? +7mph over stock with a "few" bolt-ons? What's your secret?
Probably weight if anything and great air. That's a huge gain.
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Originally Posted by V8EATR
without long tubes maybe. Didn't stopsign32v make 308 with intake/x-pipe/catback?
I don't know what his car made but I will tell you that 95% of full Bolt-on Mach 1's will see between 315-325. Of course you have those who consider 98 Cobra cams and ported short runner intakes "Bolt-ons".
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Lol was reading that thread and some think a well built NA mach 1 will beat a zo6 c6.
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my lid muffler m6 car trapped 109 at the track and pulled my a4 111 car on the street 5 for 5 the same night. ***** weird. both were at the same track, same night. my ex wife was driving the m6 car.
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
^That thread is FULL of of fail.


These numbers are more realistic.
http://mustangforums.com/forum/mach-...r-numbers.html
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Originally Posted by s346k
my lid muffler m6 car trapped 109 at the track and pulled my a4 111 car on the street 5 for 5 the same night. ***** weird. both were at the same track, same night. my ex wife was driving the m6 car.
My friends auto was running a 13.30 @ 106 that was with a lid, and exhaust (stock manifolds) maybe it's this Texas heat
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That Mach looks so good in the video. Nice kill, though.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
No they won't. 315-325 is normal for a FULL bolt-on Mach 1.
Originally Posted by V8EATR
without long tubes maybe. Didn't stopsign32v make 308 with intake/x-pipe/catback?
Dyno numbers mean nothing. Depending on what part of the year, STD, SAE, uncorrected, corrected, gear ratio, tires, etc...

Redfire a full bolt on Mach 1 will be around 340-350rwhp.

V8EATR that's a tricky one...yes I made 308rwhp with only intake, catback, and midpipe. That was STD corrected with the stock 3.55 gears. SAE corrected with the same mods but with much lower gears my car only makes 292rwhp. FTL
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Redfire a full bolt on Mach 1 will be around 340-350rwhp.
Im aware of what they make. Plenty of experience with and around these cars. Like I said, cams and/or Ported intakes don't count!



This your typical, run of the mill, 95 percentile Bolt-on Mach 1:

Headers
Mid-pipe
Cat-back
90mm MAF
Intake Spacer
JLT RAI

315/336.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXG1N...e_gdata_player

Add pulleys, 12lb flywheel, EWP...and add a few more. But they will not make 340-350rwhp. That's Full bolt-on LS1 M6 range.
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March crank pulley has been proven to add 12rwhp alone. Combine that with UD PS pulley and an EWP. On top of that flywheel and DS has been dyno proven to show around 10rwhp also. Add all those up and that is around 30rwhp give or take some. Combined with your 315rwhp Mach above...
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Im not counting 98 cobra cams a bolt on but its not like they are worth 30hp. And my buds car is just a ported intake not psr, and since when is a intake not a bolt on? Is a fast intake not a bolt on for an LS car? And you guys have to remember mod for mod a mach should be about 10whp higher than a 99-01 cobra because of the cylinder heads.

Like I said I have owned/modded a 3v and a good friend has a 01 cobra so I have been around/raced/worked on mustangs before. I like mustangs and LSX stuff, but some guys are just tunnel vision around here about stuff.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
March crank pulley has been proven to add 12rwhp alone. Combine that with UD PS pulley and an EWP. On top of that flywheel and DS has been dyno proven to show around 10rwhp also. Add all those up and that is around 30rwhp give or take some. Combined with your 315rwhp Mach above...
340 on an inflated dyno...possibly.



But I typically see numbers like this with all the bells & whistles. This was done on a Dynojet too....

Torch Red '03 Mach1 Natural Aspirated

C&L CAI tube C&L 85MM MAF/ K&N Acufab Twin 60mm TB Meizier WP Steeda underdrive pully w/2" shorter drive belt 3/8" Intake spacer JMS SCT X3 custom tune SLP 1 3/4" ceramic long tubes PYPES O/R H-PIPE Magnaflow Magnapack CAT-BACK T56 w/26 spline input shaft 12 lb. Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel Zoom 11" 2.5 Kevlar Clutch Alum D/S Pro 5.0 T56 shifter 3.55 329HP/380TQ PERFORMANCE CORNER, LLC DYNO GVW: 3608 w/driver, full tank


http://mustangforums.com/forum/mach-...numbers-2.html
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Originally Posted by V8EATR
Im not counting 98 cobra cams a bolt on but its not like they are worth 30hp. And my buds car is just a ported intake not psr, and since when is a intake not a bolt on? Is a fast intake not a bolt on for an LS car? And you guys have to remember mod for mod a mach should be about 10whp higher than a 99-01 cobra because of the cylinder heads.

Like I said I have owned/modded a 3v and a good friend has a 01 cobra so I have been around/raced/worked on mustangs before. I like mustangs and LSX stuff, but some guys are just tunnel vision around here about stuff.
You sure changed your tone since you last posted. Were you waiting for another "Mustang " guy to chime in first?

And tunnel vision, I hope you're not referring to me? I guarantee I've owned more Mustangs tha you, so no idea where the whole LSX and Ford stuff along with a brief resume of your work history came in at. I can give two ***** about that. I'm just stating it how it is, in the real world. If you feel I'm wrong than show me.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
340 on an inflated dyno...possibly.



But I typically see numbers like this with all the bells & whistles. This was done on a Dynojet too....

Torch Red '03 Mach1 Natural Aspirated

C&L CAI tube C&L 85MM MAF/ K&N Acufab Twin 60mm TB Meizier WP Steeda underdrive pully w/2" shorter drive belt 3/8" Intake spacer JMS SCT X3 custom tune SLP 1 3/4" ceramic long tubes PYPES O/R H-PIPE Magnaflow Magnapack CAT-BACK T56 w/26 spline input shaft 12 lb. Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel Zoom 11" 2.5 Kevlar Clutch Alum D/S Pro 5.0 T56 shifter 3.55 329HP/380TQ PERFORMANCE CORNER, LLC DYNO GVW: 3608 w/driver, full tank


http://mustangforums.com/forum/mach-...numbers-2.html
Hold on now, you are the one racing dynos. On a Mustang Dyno, no a Mach 1 will not hit 340+rwhp probably. However, on a dynojet...hell yea it will, and that wouldn't be rare. Either way I don't see what it matters. A bolt on Mach 1 COULD hit 350+rwhp on a dyno that might be considered happy. Then go to the track and lose to a 320rwhp Mach 1. Don't see what dyno numbers prove....
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Torch Red '03 Mach1 Natural Aspirated

C&L CAI tube C&L 85MM MAF/ K&N Acufab Twin 60mm TB Meizier WP Steeda underdrive pully w/2" shorter drive belt 3/8" Intake spacer JMS SCT X3 custom tune SLP 1 3/4" ceramic long tubes PYPES O/R H-PIPE Magnaflow Magnapack CAT-BACK T56 w/26 spline input shaft 12 lb. Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel Zoom 11" 2.5 Kevlar Clutch Alum D/S Pro 5.0 T56 shifter 3.55 329HP/380TQ PERFORMANCE CORNER, LLC DYNO GVW: 3608 w/driver, full tank


http://mustangforums.com/forum/mach-...numbers-2.html
I would change that and then I'd change the exhaust. I think I could find around 10rwhp in that combination.
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
I want to see a 550-600 rwhp N/A build like one guy mentioned.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Hold on now, you are the one racing dynos. On a Mustang Dyno, no a Mach 1 will not hit 340+rwhp probably. However, on a dynojet...hell yea it will, and that wouldn't be rare. Either way I don't see what it matters. A bolt on Mach 1 COULD hit 350+rwhp on a dyno that might be considered happy. Then go to the track and lose to a 320rwhp Mach 1. Don't see what dyno numbers prove....
Right, because in reality, that bolt-on Mach is really making closer to 320.


As for racing dyno's, I was responding to V8EATR's comment.You threw your .2 in and chose to race with us.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
How did you accomplish this? +7mph over stock with a "few" bolt-ons? What's your secret?
I didn't run 114, I ran 112.89. Knowing what I know now 114-116 would be attainable. No secrets really. We got a friends ram air ta to trap 110 with just free mods. Another friends car we got to go 109 in the heat with just a lid, cutout and freemods. My car went 108 stock.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I didn't run 114, I ran 112.89. Knowing what I know now 114-116 would be attainable. No secrets really. We got a friends ram air ta to trap 110 with just free mods. Another friends car we got to go 109 in the heat with just a lid, cutout and freemods. My car went 108 stock.
No, 116 at Full Weight with just a "few" bolt-ons would be the first of its kind. So by "Free mods" I assume you also mean taking some weight out?


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