I agree with gas. It isn't me who bitches about gas. Its on the local GM guys here.

 

I think its impressive for t eh weight. But its been out 4 weeks and the engine set up is been out for a while really with the CTS-V. GT500's will hit in about a month. Should be some good comparison. Think both will suffer form same thing in stock form. TRACTION!

 

Ahh are you getting butt hurt. That there is a Zr1 that runs 12's. I know what driver mod can do. Yet still have not seen one run 10's stock except at a track rental.

 

I will agree with you here! But the same could be said for the 5.0L Coyote, the Mod Motor Design has been around for along time! (Granted the coyote does have a alot more design changes than the LS1, LS2, LS3/7, LSA/9)

I'm not Fully up to date on the coyote by no means but in a nut shell what separates your coyote from the Cobra R, 01 Cobra, and 5.4L???

Ford Revamps the bore, stroke, and Cam Designs??? Changes injection a little and adds VVT??? (Stay basic with me)

 

Agree. But as you and I both knwo the MOD motor shies with FI. That is why every one does it instead trying to biuld a N/A one. It cost more t o do a N/A biuld with H/C on a coyote then it does to just SC one.

 

Agreed! The LSx Motor shines well N/A, boosted, or N20, these motors in stock form love the spray if setup correctly.

Now for the final question, whats to say an LSx owner couldnt boost and h/c his LSx and be equally as quick/quicker as the coyote?? (Both are great cars as I've stated earlier....)

 

Haha

The solution to guys like this to ignore them and they might go away

 

Comparing similair platforms 5th gen vs 5.0. The 5.0 is on top. And that is with a 427 CU IN SC/nitrous 1. Lingenfelter racing- 8.997 @ 158.80 (377 LS9, TVS 2300, 2 stage Nitrous,M6) to a stock CU IN blower only 5.0 that eveolution went 8.8's in.

 

Evolutions car full weight?? LPE's car is 4100+lbs Labeled as the BLACK PIG!! And Im pretty sure Rodney and the boys from RPM will be busting down LPE's record shortly with "**** the COPO Killer" also called "The Fridge"

Now 5th Gen platform out of the picture comparing Powerplants Alone!

LSx vs Coyote

LSx Boosted vs Coyote boosted will be the same $$.
LSx H/C vs Coyote H/C (Coyote will cost more $$)
LSx H/C/Boost vs Coyote Boost alone...............
LSx H/C/Nitrous vs Coyote Boost/n20................
LSx H/C/N20/Boost vs Coyote Boost/n20/h/c......

Built bottom ends aside as we've seen the JPC vs SAM Racing camaro already

Fill in the blanks for me please. (Consider both setups in equal weight cars)


I guess the real test we will all be waiting for will be the 5.3L COPO vs the 5.4L Cobra Jet for a showdown for who's who......

Gotta love the ERA we are all in while we can!!

 

And the 5.3 STOCK BOTTOM END has bitch slapped that at BOTTOM 8s in multiple setups.. What does that tell you? Probably nothing with your IQ. The ls stock bottom end platform will have several 7 second cars this year, take my word for that.

Compare the less advanced smaller cubic inch 5.3/ls1/6.0 to the coyote/etc instead of the ls3...

Simply put, people aren't pushing the ls3 to its limits, not even shop cars. PERIOD.

 

When you take the entire platform out of the way and compare solely the motor/etc... There isn't much of a comparison.

 

Bang for buck or either way you want to cut it! Its always been the upside of the SBC!

I will admit all cars with a v8 that run in the 9's, 8's, 7's, etc..... have my respect!!! Especially STREET CARS on PUMP GAS (Meth injection, E85, included of course!)

 

How do you only have less than 7k in your car? I did the Paxton S/C and Lethal Performance ORX alone and was already at $5400 let alone Stall, Tires, wheels, BAP. Unless tires and wheels are super cheap for the 5.0

 

Harfd to take similair platforms out of it. That is like saying wait till the guys doing coyote swaps in Fox body's that are gutted get done.

And how can you compare H/C/boost to Boost only 5.0? And the COPO is suppose to be track only car. Just like the Cobra Jet, That has now went 8's right from the go and low 10's n/a with a 5.0 just to start.

 

Where did you buy it? I only paid 3900 for my blower new(tuner kit) and cold air set up. From TEAMBEEFCAKE.com A buddy ordered from Lethal an Paid 5100. Tires-wheels drag set up $1000. Off road x pipe 120, Injectors $500, Boss intake 350, BAP $100. Stall 1000. . I shop around a lot. Ask about military discounts/forum discounts. See if they beat the competition.

4000+1000+350+100+120+1000+500=$6970

 

Took the Super Cobra Jet awhile to run in the 8's! And the N/A Copo has gone alot faster than 10's!

Im comparing Power Plants alone to take any weight arguments you come up with out of the equation. If I posted a C5Z06 running 9.60s youd complain about weight, If I posted a 4th Gen Fbody running 9.90s you complain about mods and weight.....

I want to limit your "weight" factor completely.

Show me the 5.0 Supercharger package for $4K. (dont get into used **** or Custom Turbo Setups as the LSx market has the same Bullshit)

I dont care how you want to say it ohio. The LSX has run N/A just as fast as you have boosted!! Now tell me what happens when the LSx is boosted??? Frank Beck's GTO has gone just as Fast as your Centri Supercharged 5.0's back in 2007.

The LSx Gets it done as a powerplant CHEAPER than your MOD MOTOR Coyote. End of discussion.

The Gen I and II SBC gets it done cheaper than the LSx!

You like to compare bang for buck as well as weight. But when the focus is on one or the other you avoid the situation.

 

You ordered a pair of mens underwear for 3900 and they tossed in a used head unit???

How much for install and tune??

Please try not to use used prices on everything you have and compare it to new prices for every one elses stuff.

 

I didnt buy anything I dont have a 5.0 I was just curious lol I figured you bought the full kit tho and ya I only checked Lethal and Paxtons website, but 1k for 2setups of wheels/tires is crazy lol my rear set of DRs alone are $800 lol

 

teambeefcakeracing.com Sorry.

And I did install myself on everything. And tune was free by a buddy. And how can not use used prices as I bought the x pipe used and the bap. Why buy new when can get used ons that are still like new. They are out there all over for sale. Just have to look around. If you buy a part for 700 and I buy it some where else for 400 whats diff as buying used little stuff.

This is the Vortech kit, Call about tuner kits for the Paxton
they are cheaper.
http://teambeefcakeracing.com/4fq218-120l.html

 

Most of the time you hunt down a used part. And quality changes with every part you encounter. You were comparing Livernois Motorsports BNIB Parts for the ZL1 to your USED stuff earlier.

Props for the self install......

You can get a full Install, tune, and your choice of Centri Unit on the common LSx platforms for around $5,549 with BNIB parts from places like House of Boost, Vengeance, EastCoast Performance, etc... when they have sales (every year around tax season!)