Mach 1 vs LS3 Camaro
#323
But it wasn't.
You can take a 6 cylinder f-body and put in a LS1, because it could have been in it from the factory. It's still considered a swap. He took a motor that didn't come in his car from the factory, and installed it. End of story, Jesus Christ.
You can take a 6 cylinder f-body and put in a LS1, because it could have been in it from the factory. It's still considered a swap. He took a motor that didn't come in his car from the factory, and installed it. End of story, Jesus Christ.
#324
Both idiots. Seriously. If you have an IQ of over 100, it makes your head hurt.
#325
#326
Your Z28 did not come from the factory with an LS6 as no F-body's from 98-02 were ever produced with that engine. Of course you mean LS6 block as in bare block in which a good number of cars came with in late 01-02. Improved oil distribution & bay to breathing being the main advantage over the standard LS1 block.
#327
I agree to some extent. I was merely replacing a engine. Now my ls7 I will consider a swap. There is more to putting that engine in than meets the eye.
Stroked engines some consider simple, I don't. H/c cars are more involved than putting the ls6 in.....probably takes longer to.
Stroked engines some consider simple, I don't. H/c cars are more involved than putting the ls6 in.....probably takes longer to.
on a side note, i know a guy that has an 01 cobra, well.. he blew it up and replaced it with one from an 03 mach. i guess he's supposed to add "motor swap" to his mods list?
and FWIW, my car is slow and is no basis for comparison in any of this discussion. its dirty, almost stock, and slow.
#329
edit: although i like your example, would you change heads/cam and call it a motor swap?
Last edited by bill12690; 05-30-2012 at 01:24 AM.
#331
#332
Your Z28 did not come from the factory with an LS6 as no F-body's from 98-02 were ever produced with that engine. Of course you mean LS6 block as in bare block in which a good number of cars came with in late 01-02. Improved oil distribution & bay to breathing being the main advantage over the standard LS1 block.
#333
Actually GMMG made 69 ls6 Camaro's in 02 to commemorate the zl1.
#335
I was talking about from a GT, but in my example it really doesn't matter. And if I did a heads/cams swap, I would call it that.
#336
You couldn't get a LS6 in a Camaro from the factory, although it would have been sweet if GM offered that as an option.
#337
Like I said Bite. To me a "swap" is more involved. Someone could've had a mix up and give someone a ls6 instead of a ls1 and it would go in w/o issue and run fine on the stock tune.
My ls7 has needed the dry sump removed for wet sump, hole drilled in block for dipstick, 58 reluctor wheel changed to a 24, knock and cam sensors are moved, factory intake won't work......now that's a swap.....the other is a replacement. If you don't actually turn the wrenches your self then I can see the confusion.....but I do turn my own wrenches.
#338
I don't think the oe motor has a vin on these.....so what now.
Like I said Bite. To me a "swap" is more involved. Someone could've had a mix up and give someone a ls6 instead of a ls1 and it would go in w/o issue and run fine on the stock tune.
My ls7 has needed the dry sump removed for wet sump, hole drilled in block for dipstick, 58 reluctor wheel changed to a 24, knock and cam sensors are moved, factory intake won't work......now that's a swap.....the other is a replacement. If you don't actually turn the wrenches your self then I can see the confusion.....but I do turn my own wrenches.
Like I said Bite. To me a "swap" is more involved. Someone could've had a mix up and give someone a ls6 instead of a ls1 and it would go in w/o issue and run fine on the stock tune.
My ls7 has needed the dry sump removed for wet sump, hole drilled in block for dipstick, 58 reluctor wheel changed to a 24, knock and cam sensors are moved, factory intake won't work......now that's a swap.....the other is a replacement. If you don't actually turn the wrenches your self then I can see the confusion.....but I do turn my own wrenches.
#339
Agreed. That "Hiho" guy uses some wacky logic.
#340
agreed.