ZL1 vs. GT500 Insideline (Bittersweet)
06-14-2012, 01:15 PM
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i think i missed it because of the short lifespan...lol. Actually i left it out because... the Ford GT was not any everyday car you see on the road like you Mustangs and Vette's and total different pricing... The Ford GT is supercar status in my eye's like the ZR1... Would be awesome if they brought it back to push Chevy to go back to the drawing board on the ZR1!! Would be nice for American Supercars to sit on top of the class... hear that the 2013 Viper GTS has been seen testing at the ring...
06-14-2012, 02:14 PM
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Really? Might as well add in the Salsa lol
That's because GM guys recognize the shortcomings and that GM could have easily put the ZL1 on a diet and increase boost.
Where as Ford nutswinger believed the GT500 would out-handle the C6Z and still think the Mach 1 is a 10 sec car with bolt-ons
Where as Ford nutswinger believed the GT500 would out-handle the C6Z and still think the Mach 1 is a 10 sec car with bolt-ons
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06-14-2012, 02:19 PM
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i think i missed it because of the short lifespan...lol. Actually i left it out because... the Ford GT was not any everyday car you see on the road like you Mustangs and Vette's and total different pricing... The Ford GT is supercar status in my eye's like the ZR1... Would be awesome if they brought it back to push Chevy to go back to the drawing board on the ZR1!! Would be nice for American Supercars to sit on top of the class... hear that the 2013 Viper GTS has been seen testing at the ring...
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Really? Might as well add in the Salsa lol
That's because GM guys recognize the shortcomings and that GM could have easily put the ZL1 on a diet and increase boost.
Where as Ford nutswinger believed the GT500 would out-handle the C6Z and still think the Mach 1 is a 10 sec car with bolt-ons
That's because GM guys recognize the shortcomings and that GM could have easily put the ZL1 on a diet and increase boost.
Where as Ford nutswinger believed the GT500 would out-handle the C6Z and still think the Mach 1 is a 10 sec car with bolt-ons
fairlane, think thunderbolt too. i can't remember if those ever came with 427's, but i've seen em with 390's.
falcon, was almost as good as the mustangs.
maverick, think grabber.
06-14-2012, 03:17 PM
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Really? Might as well add in the Salsa lol
That's because GM guys recognize the shortcomings and that GM could have easily put the ZL1 on a diet and increase boost.
Where as Ford nutswinger believed the GT500 would out-handle the C6Z and still think the Mach 1 is a 10 sec car with bolt-ons
That's because GM guys recognize the shortcomings and that GM could have easily put the ZL1 on a diet and increase boost.
Where as Ford nutswinger believed the GT500 would out-handle the C6Z and still think the Mach 1 is a 10 sec car with bolt-ons
06-14-2012, 03:40 PM
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/70148615@N03/7187571511/http://www.flickr.com/photos/70148615@N03/7187571511/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/70148615@N03/, on Flickr
lightweight(thunderbolt) galaxy500...63 or 64.....
http://www.flickr.com/photos/70148615@N03/7372815920/http://www.flickr.com/photos/70148615@N03/7372815920/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/70148615@N03/, on Flickr
falcon. this one is 65'ish i think....
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maverick grabber......72 they had 302's in em.....
http://www.flickr.com/photos/70148615@N03/7372816052/http://www.flickr.com/photos/70148615@N03/7372816052/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/70148615@N03/, on Flickr
06-14-2012, 05:57 PM
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Having chased Evan around off-ramps and various curves, i can vouch for the fact that his Boss can turn a corner. I haven't driven Evan's car, but i have driven the regular 5.0 and the '12 SS, and the 5.0 is better.
The one i drove had crap tires on it (not a brembo package car) and was about as good as the SS. With comparable rubber it's no question the mustang is better.
The SS feels huge, very nose heavy. It doesn't turn in very well and the steering doesn't offer the feedback of the mustangs.
Overall i think the SS looks better and is a better quality vehicle overall (interior and general build quality) than the 5.0, but the 5.0 is the better car to drive.
The one i drove had crap tires on it (not a brembo package car) and was about as good as the SS. With comparable rubber it's no question the mustang is better.
The SS feels huge, very nose heavy. It doesn't turn in very well and the steering doesn't offer the feedback of the mustangs.
Overall i think the SS looks better and is a better quality vehicle overall (interior and general build quality) than the 5.0, but the 5.0 is the better car to drive.
As I said, in bone stock form straight off the showroom floor with a full warranty, that GT500 is going to handle well enough and put down more than enough power to fit my needs for a true street car. I have much more of a rider/driver improvement type of personality rather than a mod it to go faster mentality. My bike is a perfect example. Every time I've taken this bike to the strip, I went faster every time (and continued to improve all day the last day until they shut down for rain). Why mod it if I'm continuing to improve? I'd rather spend more time getting that 10.8 out of it stock than mod it to go low 10's next week, which I could easily do if I felt like it.
On a road course, this rider/driver improvement potential is magnified about a thousand times. It could literally take an amateur rider/driver years to hit their full potential on a road course with a new, factory stock car or bike, especially if they don't get to a ton of track days throughout the year. To me, the fun of racing is seeing improvement in myself, not the car or bike. On the road course, I ride mid-pack with the advanced group on a stock 600 with street tires, and there's still plenty left in this bike with more improvement in myself. Why mod it if I can go faster by improving myself first? The situation is the same with a car for me.
Anyone can spend money to go faster, but I'm much more impressed and pleased when I see someone greatly improve their times in a stock vehicle over the course of a couple seasons than seeing their buddy spend $10k in mods on the same car and run a second or two faster than that. But that's just me. Everyone has their own thing they enjoy doing. A stock '13 GT500 would satisfy my desire to practice and see improvement for years to come, as would a ZL1, most likely, but the GT500 looks way better.
On a road course, this rider/driver improvement potential is magnified about a thousand times. It could literally take an amateur rider/driver years to hit their full potential on a road course with a new, factory stock car or bike, especially if they don't get to a ton of track days throughout the year. To me, the fun of racing is seeing improvement in myself, not the car or bike. On the road course, I ride mid-pack with the advanced group on a stock 600 with street tires, and there's still plenty left in this bike with more improvement in myself. Why mod it if I can go faster by improving myself first? The situation is the same with a car for me.
Anyone can spend money to go faster, but I'm much more impressed and pleased when I see someone greatly improve their times in a stock vehicle over the course of a couple seasons than seeing their buddy spend $10k in mods on the same car and run a second or two faster than that. But that's just me. Everyone has their own thing they enjoy doing. A stock '13 GT500 would satisfy my desire to practice and see improvement for years to come, as would a ZL1, most likely, but the GT500 looks way better.
For sure practice makes perfect.....well for some anyway.
Oh yea for the email I got from evangto87 saying IRS has no real advantage......I see you wised up and deleted where you said that
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06-14-2012, 06:19 PM
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I posted a ride I got in a GT this one had 1000+ HP we went ?? 7.1X first run in the 1/8th and I got out, and he went faster and faster as he got use to it. it was in SRK section, that would be Sick with the new motor and some mods.
06-14-2012, 06:29 PM
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I'm not doubting the ZL1 is faster around a track than the Laguna Seca Boss. I wouldn't even see the logic behind saying it ISN'T. Did you see the ZL1 Nurburgring lap time? Its no slouch in the corners. I can respect the 5.0 being underrated, I can respect the GT500 handing the ZL1 its *** on the straight... but I won't bullshit about the Laguna Seca Boss being faster around a course then the ZL1. Sorry, but I don't see that happening. Just don't. Same driver, I'd bet ZL1 each time.
GT500 vs ZL1 in road course, we'll have to see...
But no... I don't think Boss > ZL1 on road course.
Straight line... whatever. But road course, no.
I said GM should have made it more straight line, but I DIDN'T say they did a horrible job of making it go around corners. You'd be surprised at what some heavier weight cars can overtake on a course with the right factory tuning.
GT500 vs ZL1 in road course, we'll have to see...
But no... I don't think Boss > ZL1 on road course.
Straight line... whatever. But road course, no.
I said GM should have made it more straight line, but I DIDN'T say they did a horrible job of making it go around corners. You'd be surprised at what some heavier weight cars can overtake on a course with the right factory tuning.
06-14-2012, 06:39 PM
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.... and I'll buy your C6 ZR1 off you 