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Old 06-21-2012, 11:11 AM
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Old 06-21-2012, 11:12 AM
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Oh my pleasure. Today is my day off, first one in 3 weeks.
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Originally Posted by Bitemark46
I think the reason why is because people are lazy these days and don't like a challenge. They just want to make X power and run X times. The cheapest and easiest way possible. The answer is FI. Plus many try and be their local top dog and to do that you need FI to compete. But you are right, for me locally that I personally knew, there were only 3 n/a mod motors in the 11's. But thanks to networking on the internet I can think of about 8 n/a mod motors that went into the 11's with bolt-ons off the top of my head. Its just not the greatest platform for n/a (small cube and small bore).

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I don't believe it's necessarily laziness that makes everybody go f.i. There are so many proven and consistent setups that it's hard not to want to. As far as cost, if you only had 10-15k to spend on a motor setup, it wouldn't make sense not to go f.i.
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Sorry but i'm not impressed by this car.. It MPH's good but for the weight of a Mustang and making 600rwhp it looks more like a dyno queen to me.. That cars race weight should be between 3300-3500lbs with 600rwhp should run low 10's.. **** man my stock bottom end N/A H/C/I stock suspension, full weight camaro (3670lbs) went 10.90@123mph with only 447rwhp..
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Originally Posted by odarabla
Sorry but i'm not impressed by this car.. It MPH's good but for the weight of a Mustang and making 600rwhp it looks more like a dyno queen to me.. That cars race weight should be between 3300-3500lbs with 600rwhp should run low 10's.. **** man my stock bottom end N/A H/C/I stock suspension, full weight camaro (3670lbs) went 10.90@123mph with only 447rwhp..
Down hill tracks don't count.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Nope, but STOCK suspension, old *** LT1, with only one camshaft to boot.


I know it embarrases you that the 20 year old "inferior" motor has went faster N/A than your modular 4v has.
Stock cubed 5.4 has been faster then lt1 anything so I honestly could care less if you want to compare racecars.

In regards to the 2v more then one has been 9s aslpets car is no unicorn just not a lot of ppl putting in the time and effort. Money is also a issue but don't think that a ls is cheap and easy to put in the 9s either.
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I once had a 2V.. then i saw a couple of my friends put superchargers on them and still get *** raped by a z28 with a little cam, rusty long tubes and a catback. I guess you can figure out what my next course of action was... I cant imagine it is easy or cheap to get 600 wheel from a 2v so that alone is impressive!
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Originally Posted by automach1
Stock cubed 5.4 has been faster then lt1 anything so I honestly could care less if you want to compare racecars.

In regards to the 2v more then one has been 9s aslpets car is no unicorn just not a lot of ppl putting in the time and effort. Money is also a issue but don't think that a ls is cheap and easy to put in the 9s either.
Redfire's comment was about both motors Naturally-aspirated, so was the 9-sec 2v argument. Stay on topic.

With that said, has a N/A 5.4 ever been faster than fastest LT1 F-body on motor?
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Originally Posted by odarabla
Sorry but i'm not impressed by this car.. It MPH's good but for the weight of a Mustang and making 600rwhp it looks more like a dyno queen to me.. That cars race weight should be between 3300-3500lbs with 600rwhp should run low 10's.. **** man my stock bottom end N/A H/C/I stock suspension, full weight camaro (3670lbs) went 10.90@123mph with only 447rwhp..
That's what I was trying to say, but then the OP got all butt hurt and mushy on me. 600rwhp and low 11s @ 127 at the Mustangs weight is NOT impressive. It took my old 6spd Formula just under 500rwhp N/A to do that trapping 128mph at +1000ft density altitude.
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Originally Posted by 916 BREDWNR
Redfire's comment was about both motors Naturally-aspirated, so was the 9-sec 2v argument. Stay on topic.

With that said, has a N/A 5.4 ever been faster than fastest LT1 F-body on motor?
Yea I know maybe you should try and keep up better he said 4v in his last post. Yea let's compare a stock cubed 2v with class restrictions to a whored out lt1. Yes 5.4 has went faster and made more power on stock cubes. Original topic had nothing to do with na anything so nobody is on topic.
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Originally Posted by automach1
Yea I know maybe you should try and keep up better he said 4v in his last post. Yea let's compare a stock cubed 2v with class restrictions to a whored out lt1. Yes 5.4 has went faster and made more power on stock cubes. Original topic had nothing to do with na anything so nobody is on topic.
It was a serious question, no need to be so sensitive when were just talking cars here.

So how fast has the 5.4 been on motor in a Mustang? I know Lethal EFI is the LT1 record holder at 9.2@14X in their old stock suspended T/A 38x ci.

Outside of class restrictions, how fast has the 2v gone N/A period?

I think its only fair since you make the "stock cube" argument so much I can speak strictly in terms of N/A.
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Scott Cushman (formaly of VT Engines) went 9.20 at 145 in his "destroked 5.4". 324 ci. Made 750hp. Stock suspension. Car only made 1 pass off the trailer then ripped the torque boxes from the body. Then the poop hit the fan when the company he worked for went bankrupt and he was out a job. So the car sat.

Al Papito went 9.36 in his 5.4 97 cobra. Not the lightest car but he made over 600rwhp.

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Originally Posted by Bitemark46
Scott Cushman (formaly of VT Engines) went 9.20 at 145 in his "destroked 5.4". 324 ci. Made 750hp. Stock suspension. Car only made 1 pass off the trailer then ripped the torque boxes from the body. Then the poop hit the fan when the company he worked for went bankrupt and he was out a job. So the car sat.

Al Papito went 9.36 in his 5.4 97 cobra. Not the lightest car but he made over 600rwhp.

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Thank you Bitemark for the simple straightforward answer. That's really movin'! I remember Scott Cushman and VT Engines, those guys really had the Modular stuff down.
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Originally Posted by 916 BREDWNR
Oooo Guuurl No E di-it.

You argue like a chick.
I fail to see why exactly he argues like a chick...

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Originally Posted by jt76
I once had a 2V.. then i saw a couple of my friends put superchargers on them and still get *** raped by a z28 with a little cam, rusty long tubes and a catback. I guess you can figure out what my next course of action was... I cant imagine it is easy or cheap to get 600 wheel from a 2v so that alone is impressive!
Damn you sound like me when I had my bolt on 2v but I didn't have a supercharger. Instead I was trying to break out of the 14s with my 14.005 @100.99
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Originally Posted by NightmareTA
I fail to see why exactly he argues like a chick...

One thing about this forum I always fail to understand is why everyone is always so worried about posts that weren't even intended for them in the first place. Were all MEN here right? Not trying to stir, it just makes me laugh really.

Back on topic though, Scott Cushman actually started with Sean Hyland Motorsports before he went off to VT with his brother Jim. I've personally dealt with him over the phone back in the very early 2000's when I was trying to put together a combo for my '98 Cobra. There weren't many parts for the 4v at that time...2v market was much bigger with FRPP being the main innovators. Ended up buying just about every part for the blower build from SHM. Very cool guy. Jim later formed Cushman racing, not sure if they are still around though.
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
Damn you sound like me when I had my bolt on 2v but I didn't have a supercharger. Instead I was trying to break out of the 14s with my 14.005 @100.99
Damn bro, what were you doing? You should have been running near that stock! You sure you had the throttle all the way open

Or was it a non-PI?
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Damn bro, what were you doing? You should have been running near that stock! You sure you had the throttle all the way open
I was on street tires so it was my 60 was like a 2.2. I had cai pulleys exhaust (stock manifolds) 373 gears and diablo tune. I'm sure if I and a drag radial or if I ran it like 100x more I could broke into the 13s
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
I was on street tires so it was my 60 was like a 2.2. I had cai pulleys exhaust (stock manifolds) 373 gears and diablo tune. I'm sure if I and a drag radial or if I ran it like 100x more I could broke into the 13s
Ok that makes sense. It wasn't the car it was you.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Damn bro, what were you doing? You should have been running near that stock! You sure you had the throttle all the way open

Or was it a non-PI?
Speaking of non-PI cars, I've been toying with the idea of getting another one and doing a PI h/c/i swap. Mill the heads down a hair, 4.10s, and bolt-ons (LTs of course)...would be a fun/cheap DD.


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