ScreaminRedZ

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I agree, but the argument here is power vs handling. It's not like the one of them handles so much better that it's not even a contest. It is that way with power/acceleration, however.

Beans

True.

I agree that it doesn't matter who you are, you're going to notice a 100whp difference.

sweetC5

LOTS of people care about handling now... there are a big group of people that auto X and do track days now. This is were the Zl1 and 1LE were built around, plus the props of being a good daily driver to boot. GM said this many times, and they put out what they said, I like doing all kinds of auto racing and think they did a good job with the camaros. Your not going to be a track champion with one, but they perform well at any track and thats what makes it fun car.

evangto87

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i like handling for the main reason... i can race deep into triple digits and know the car isnt going to lose control easily. I can also coast through turns at high rates of speed rather then jack up on my brakes to avoid death. And IF i have to stop, i have 14 inch brembos . But my main interest is straight line speed.

scramblerman

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^^^^^^^I've been saying this for a year!!!!!

HioSSilver

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The ONLY thing keeping the gt500 in the hunt on a road coarse is it's extra power. If you can't tell that by the vids that has been posted you should sell your car and take up knitting, because you don't have a clue.

HioSSilver

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That would be a awesome car. Although the 3.91 would be a better choice for the gear....maybe even a bit lower.

evangto87

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id opt for a 4.10 with the tall tires and long 6060 gearing... but 3.73 would be much better for keeping that factory like mpg etc...

evangto87

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between the gt500 and the boss... the boss is actually the much better handling car. The gt500 just has an extra 200whp to muscle its way around town. If you were to put both cars on an auto x, you would find the boss would be substantially faster. And supposedly the zl1 can out turn the boss... so in the actual handling department, i give it to the zl1 over the gt500

HioSSilver

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Maybe even 4.30's. Don't forget the ls7 will turn 7150 rpm stock. Even 4.10 with that tall tire would make it seem like it was in gear forever.

2SSARME

I heard the 1LE put like 5 seconds on the boss.
lolol.

evangto87

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i heard that too... id love to see how thats possible when the zl1 couldnt do that...

jallen100

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Either way it was sad to watch.

Silver Sleeper

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shitty driver with an auto? maybe on launch....still doesnt excuse the fact it got beat by a car with 150 less hp...

Dark SS

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Build a road course/handling car and bring back a classic nameplate that was used on legendary drag race cars. Brilliant GM. The 5th gen is so full of fail. The 1LE was close but missed the mark too buy not beefing up the rear end and adding a dry sump LS3.

2SSARME

Because the 1LE is a sick *** car. Probably the best camaro out right now.

I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one and strapping a blower on dat bitch. Oh wait. I'd rape a 1LE too.

S8ER95Z

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I just can't wait to buy a Z28.... 5000lbs and 100K... I know you have it in you GM.

odthetruth

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LOL GM is spending too much time masturbating at the Nurburgring.

I'm all for handling, but a Camaro isn't about handling... its about straight line. Thats what its always been about in my book. The ZL1 owners will soon sound like the import owners of yesteryear with the "I'll take you in the turns" after getting smoked on the straights.

I don't get it. The ZL1 should be faster? The 2nd gen CTS-Vs do better then this. Meh

sweetC5

The 1le has stronger axles and a 3.91 gear set, how is that not beefed up? The stock diff is fine in this car, and you cant expect to buy a factory car that needs nothing as far as mods, I mean come on! The 1LE is just what they needed to do with the camaro in the first place, they took care of the weak axles, added some much needed rear gear, better.. lighter.. wider.. wheels and tires, better suspension all for not much more money! So how did that not hit the mark. Its a perfect SS, its what they should have done with the SS right off the start. Allot of people are looking to buy these factory parts to swap on there 10s and 11s for much less then aftermarket. Sounds like a win to me.

Detoxx03

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Yes it's a bone stock auto so can't blame driver error with the exception of reaction time. I could be wrong but to me it looked like the 5.0 shut down early as the ZL1 was about to come around him. I've been out there plenty of times and know exactly where the finish line is. Without a finish line view it's hard to really tell. Regardless GM desperately needs to shave weight off of that damn thing. I haven't seen that 5.0 on street tires except the first time he brought it out when it was brand new. You guys know how the word "street tires" is used down here so let's not forget that.

Oh and running that GT500 would have been really stupid since we all know it's not stock

Either way the ZL1 is a great looking car that needs P90X. I look forward to what changes the new chassis will have. I'm still a fan of the newer mustangs and glad we have new life to the rivalry but let's try not to lose perspective.