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12.4 @ 109 with the mods in your sig?

KFC_Or_Bust

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I don't even count those first times we raced, I was untuned and had fat *** Kyle in my car weighing me down. Don't worry dude, keep upping your shot, I won't run you again until I get my heads and intake on, then we'll see how my "shitty" setup runs.

adamantium

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Exactly what i thought. Jesus man 109 is weak. I think my car traps more than that with the mods in my sig and untuned.

marc97taws6

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I'm guessing it must be a shitty track and street tires and Texas heat playing a factor there

Hell, I know of a few bolt-on/cam only LT1 autos trapping 110-113mph, so that car is either running bad or the strip just sucks

adamantium

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To be honest, the way they were door to door with lastofthebreed on nitrous i highly doubt the texas heat played that huge of a influence on the trap speed. Not to turn this into a huge **** storm debate like it always is but i have a buddy who also has a small cam car i think a 224 cam with heads and bolt ons and the car traps 90mph in the 8th. His car is significantly lighter being that his car is a hardtop formula stripper with big and littles and other ****. Idk ive done some searching and Not very common to see small cam cars trap great MPH. KFC trapped 115 at the same track and heat so....

marc97taws6

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Yeah who knows man?

Makes sense that an auto traps a bit less but not that much

adamantium

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Yeah 109 is ridiculously turd.

LS1rob00

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Mine does, 111-112 w/ Bolt-Ons untuned lol

Redfire 03

The way you worded your post made it seem as though were implying that cam won't work on a stock cube motor, and indeed it will. FYI, 853/241's are virtually the same head with the exception of different casting method (sand vs die), same ports/chambers and no real difference in power between the two. I agree with you in needing supporting mods for that cam.

Redfire 03

LOL. MS4 cam works very well, stock cubes and all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MKm...e_gdata_player

LASTOFTHEBREED02T/A

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My trap was higher with stock stall, it could b a tune issue also. I had to go take my ride back 3 times to get corrected and still feel like its not all there. I trapd 106 prior to my 109... The weather and track has been an issue aswell being 100+ 90%humidity, and lately pulling 2.2/2.5 60ft.
This could explain why my ride is so inefficient on top end... But who knows, still I've been whoopn ***, and making ppl mad like KFC or bust mad, with his donkey Dick cam. I'll even let you take the pill out look at the size and reinstall it so you can see im not upping anything, and go for a race.

Once heads and intake go in, you better beat me. If not you won't hear the end of it from me or this site, Lolz.

Stock 241'a FTW!

slowauto

really odd , my stock gear cam only 98 ls1 pulls on my buddies bolt on 2013 and the other bolt on 5.0s in my area with ease, then again , I also pulled on a heads, ms4, 4.10 gear 01 camaro from a roll.

LASTOFTHEBREED02T/A

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I agree on being odd, something is not quite right, but not making excuses. I was suppose to try a different tuner, I need to make time to iron everything out and see if i can better my trap and performance. Down low im good, up top is where i struggle, always blamed it on the 3800 stall. Who knows!

oddwraith

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Thing's moving pretty dang good! But for every one you show me run great on the street (which isn't the street in that vid) I'll show you 5 that run like crap. I understand that streetability is subjective, but really? Ms4 is not a good street cam on average, but of course it hauls at wot on a track...

How fast is that German heap of yours these days ?

adamantium

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Its capable of running awesome, 119mph trap is pretty solid proof of it. Obviously there are some half *** setups out there that will give a bad rep to certain cams, but that goes for ANY setup.

But look on the cam only thread, show me one person using a small cam.

If i install a cam in my car its with performance in mind. IMO if im throwing in a cam to run like a bolt on car, ill just save my money and time. People can argue about midrange and low end, yes its nice for a daily and a car to put around in but when your WOT when does your car go below 4k?

There is ALOT of Trex cam setups on the cam only record list, and alot of people say the same thing about that cam.

Hell look at this thread lastofthebreed put down numbers that his car SHOULD put down, and look at kfc without most supporting mods still traps 6mph more, and from what he tells me its very daily friendly. He dailys the car.

sweet99ss

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I don't know how this became the argument.... I was saying the setup was bad not the big cam being in the car. I said I hate when people put big cams in cars without the mods to back it up and it runs like **** so when cars like the 5.0 beat his donkey dick cammed car and than they think they can beat all cammed ls1's. Why the **** would you put that big cam in there and shift the car at 6500rpm? My car with the 224r makes peak power there and I should shift about 6600rpm. Leaving sooooo much on the table. With that cam the race shouldn't be close. All the vid proves is his car runs like **** for having such a big cam. I'm going to race a I/E/T 5.0 tommarow so will see how a 224r cammed car does.

Possum Boggs

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those last 2 races were awesome,i'd like to see the ol trans am with a 100 shot

oddwraith

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Exactly! My cam is a simple sleeper cam car. I'm going for fi in spring '13, all the leg work is done! I still don't see how I need to have an ms4 to do that, even without the sts? I think it's all in the setup and the cam is just icing on the cake...of course adamantium isn't looking for answers, he's looking for justification. That I can't give...

oddwraith

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You sir need to learn. It's just that simple. I could wax your *** if you come out with that cam and not set up properly. I don't need to have slips to prove it either, since anyone in your area with a properly setup stalled 224 car with stickies will do the same. I'm sure there's one in an area near you. I'm just being real here, and your going with internet hype here apparently, and a "one in 10" cars philosophy. There are some NASTY *** street cars that actually run right on the street for dd'ing, and would still wax a lot of trex dudes. Get over it, it happens all the time! An optimal 1320 car isn't a an optimal street car, why is that so hard?
edit: no one is saying that larger cams don't work, but what I'm saying is that I see more big cammed cars get put to shame by smaller cammed cars. It's all in the setup, not the cam....

oddwraith

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Wanna learn, or spout off about how much you know?