2v + more boost = puppy kicked Cobalt SS/TC
09-18-2012, 12:07 AM
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When I was n/a with a direct port nitrous setup I went through my suspension with the intent of running off the gas at the track. Well it backfired on the dyno and I then swapped to the twin setup.
I have young kids and really don't want a cage in my car so I've never taken it to the track. Hell back in 06 I even had some torque thrust ll big and littles custom made and they've been sitting in my garage this hole time, still with paper on the tires, lol.
Right now its sitting in my driveway with a fresh motor and transmission but I just haven't felt like finishing it. While it was down I swapped heads, cams, and intake so hopefully it puts up some good numbers soon.
09-18-2012, 07:24 AM
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Yes...a 2v is not a good performance engine. Hell a 4v is not that good either. That's why they are never built n/a. You can ram boost threw anything and make it fast....and they don't hold up for that very well either.
hence you wanting a gto or g8.....lol
With that said for the guys that built a fast 2v, good job. Way to put lipstick on a pig!
09-18-2012, 08:33 AM
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The norm for a built and boosted 2v is 6-650rwhp and a 4v 7-800, with ls1s 750-850rwhp. The ls1s are no doubt superior its just so sad GM wrapped such a great motor in such an ugly *** body as a camaro. The inferrior sound is just a bonus, lol. There was a reason your(HioSS) car was axed and it wasn't because of the horsepower.
09-18-2012, 09:21 AM
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No need to be politically correct.
Yes...a 2v is not a good performance engine. Hell a 4v is not that good either. That's why they are never built n/a. You can ram boost threw anything and make it fast....and they don't hold up for that very well either.
hence you wanting a gto or g8.....lol
With that said for the guys that built a fast 2v, good job. Way to put lipstick on a pig!
Yes...a 2v is not a good performance engine. Hell a 4v is not that good either. That's why they are never built n/a. You can ram boost threw anything and make it fast....and they don't hold up for that very well either.
hence you wanting a gto or g8.....lol
With that said for the guys that built a fast 2v, good job. Way to put lipstick on a pig!
09-18-2012, 09:56 AM
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The norm for a built and boosted 2v is 6-650rwhp and a 4v 7-800, with ls1s 750-850rwhp. The ls1s are no doubt superior its just so sad GM wrapped such a great motor in such an ugly *** body as a camaro. The inferrior sound is just a bonus, lol. There was a reason your(HioSS) car was axed and it wasn't because of the horsepower.
That is not the norm.
Reason for the hate on the 2 valves was the BS Ford spewed when they debuted. They can out rev the 5.0 they replaced(they couldn't and had less low end torque),a 96 GT was SLOWER than a comparable 95 GT which was slower than a 93 GT. Ford claimed in 1996 that there was no way for a pushrod v8 to pass future emmissions(really????). The PI was an improvement but about 3 years too late. They are a BITCH to work on(cam install is really fun-especially on a 4 valve). They are huge. They need a poweradder to run worth a damn even by respectable standards 8 years ago. Even the Ford Powerhouse aftermarket ignored them for years. Aftermarket still has not caught up the previous pushrod motors. Ford had to come out with the FR500 to compete in motorsport events since their production mod motors were weak,difficult to service etc...
Can they be fast? Yes they can. Anything wrong with them being modded. Nope. Just costs some dough and takes some effort.
09-18-2012, 11:25 AM
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The norm for a built and boosted 2v is 6-650rwhp and a 4v 7-800, with ls1s 750-850rwhp. The ls1s are no doubt superior its just so sad GM wrapped such a great motor in such an ugly *** body as a camaro. The inferrior sound is just a bonus, lol. There was a reason your(HioSS) car was axed and it wasn't because of the horsepower.
And they don't need turbo's to run 12's.
That is not the norm.
Reason for the hate on the 2 valves was the BS Ford spewed when they debuted. They can out rev the 5.0 they replaced(they couldn't and had less low end torque),a 96 GT was SLOWER than a comparable 95 GT which was slower than a 93 GT. Ford claimed in 1996 that there was no way for a pushrod v8 to pass future emmissions(really????). The PI was an improvement but about 3 years too late. They are a BITCH to work on(cam install is really fun-especially on a 4 valve). They are huge. They need a poweradder to run worth a damn even by respectable standards 8 years ago. Even the Ford Powerhouse aftermarket ignored them for years. Aftermarket still has not caught up the previous pushrod motors. Ford had to come out with the FR500 to compete in motorsport events since their production mod motors were weak,difficult to service etc...
Can they be fast? Yes they can. Anything wrong with them being modded. Nope. Just costs some dough and takes some effort.
Reason for the hate on the 2 valves was the BS Ford spewed when they debuted. They can out rev the 5.0 they replaced(they couldn't and had less low end torque),a 96 GT was SLOWER than a comparable 95 GT which was slower than a 93 GT. Ford claimed in 1996 that there was no way for a pushrod v8 to pass future emmissions(really????). The PI was an improvement but about 3 years too late. They are a BITCH to work on(cam install is really fun-especially on a 4 valve). They are huge. They need a poweradder to run worth a damn even by respectable standards 8 years ago. Even the Ford Powerhouse aftermarket ignored them for years. Aftermarket still has not caught up the previous pushrod motors. Ford had to come out with the FR500 to compete in motorsport events since their production mod motors were weak,difficult to service etc...
Can they be fast? Yes they can. Anything wrong with them being modded. Nope. Just costs some dough and takes some effort.
09-18-2012, 05:18 PM
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The norm for a built and boosted 2v is 6-650rwhp and a 4v 7-800, with ls1s 750-850rwhp. The ls1s are no doubt superior its just so sad GM wrapped such a great motor in such an ugly *** body as a camaro. The inferrior sound is just a bonus, lol. There was a reason your(HioSS) car was axed and it wasn't because of the horsepower.
09-18-2012, 06:34 PM
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The norm for a built and boosted 2v is 6-650rwhp and a 4v 7-800, with ls1s 750-850rwhp. The ls1s are no doubt superior its just so sad GM wrapped such a great motor in such an ugly *** body as a camaro. The inferrior sound is just a bonus, lol. There was a reason your(HioSS) car was axed and it wasn't because of the horsepower.
09-18-2012, 06:39 PM
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09-18-2012, 06:41 PM
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That is not the norm.
Reason for the hate on the 2 valves was the BS Ford spewed when they debuted. They can out rev the 5.0 they replaced(they couldn't and had less low end torque),a 96 GT was SLOWER than a comparable 95 GT which was slower than a 93 GT. Ford claimed in 1996 that there was no way for a pushrod v8 to pass future emmissions(really????). The PI was an improvement but about 3 years too late. They are a BITCH to work on(cam install is really fun-especially on a 4 valve). They are huge. They need a poweradder to run worth a damn even by respectable standards 8 years ago. Even the Ford Powerhouse aftermarket ignored them for years. Aftermarket still has not caught up the previous pushrod motors. Ford had to come out with the FR500 to compete in motorsport events since their production mod motors were weak,difficult to service etc...
Can they be fast? Yes they can. Anything wrong with them being modded. Nope. Just costs some dough and takes some effort.
Reason for the hate on the 2 valves was the BS Ford spewed when they debuted. They can out rev the 5.0 they replaced(they couldn't and had less low end torque),a 96 GT was SLOWER than a comparable 95 GT which was slower than a 93 GT. Ford claimed in 1996 that there was no way for a pushrod v8 to pass future emmissions(really????). The PI was an improvement but about 3 years too late. They are a BITCH to work on(cam install is really fun-especially on a 4 valve). They are huge. They need a poweradder to run worth a damn even by respectable standards 8 years ago. Even the Ford Powerhouse aftermarket ignored them for years. Aftermarket still has not caught up the previous pushrod motors. Ford had to come out with the FR500 to compete in motorsport events since their production mod motors were weak,difficult to service etc...
Can they be fast? Yes they can. Anything wrong with them being modded. Nope. Just costs some dough and takes some effort.
not to mention as far as serious turbo builds go 4v>lsx.
09-18-2012, 06:48 PM
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No need to be politically correct.
Yes...a 2v is not a good performance engine. Hell a 4v is not that good either. That's why they are never built n/a. You can ram boost threw anything and make it fast....and they don't hold up for that very well either.
hence you wanting a gto or g8.....lol
With that said for the guys that built a fast 2v, good job. Way to put lipstick on a pig!
Yes...a 2v is not a good performance engine. Hell a 4v is not that good either. That's why they are never built n/a. You can ram boost threw anything and make it fast....and they don't hold up for that very well either.
hence you wanting a gto or g8.....lol
With that said for the guys that built a fast 2v, good job. Way to put lipstick on a pig!
09-18-2012, 07:20 PM
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Unlike you automach I have built,raced,driven tons of mods since 96. Who cares what Max effort cars have gone.I simply implied why there is so much hate toward mod motors. Go to a street night or even a Stang vs fbody shootout and that will prove how my posts are realistic and yours rival a pipe dream
09-18-2012, 07:47 PM
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If i owned a bolt on 2v id hang myself.
Besides that what do those tihngs trap with bolt ons? I can tell you right now a bolt on ap2 is about a 104-105 mph car. Local one i ran when i was lid only ran door to door with a full bolt on 350z HR that traped 104ish mph.
BTW i can confirm a 2v is a chick car, my mom just sold hers last week.
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09-18-2012, 08:04 PM
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09-18-2012, 08:13 PM
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I know, was just messing around.
I see.
I like how automach always has to bring full out drag cars into the discussion of your average run of the mill mustang. Very typical.
I mean **** fords modulars have always been turd, They had to put a mid 4xx CFM flowing head and redesign the whole platform to just be able to out run the LSx cars.
I see.
I like how automach always has to bring full out drag cars into the discussion of your average run of the mill mustang. Very typical.
I mean **** fords modulars have always been turd, They had to put a mid 4xx CFM flowing head and redesign the whole platform to just be able to out run the LSx cars.