98 ls1 camaro vs 02 saleen mustang
09-22-2012 | 01:40 AM
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09-22-2012 | 10:35 AM
#24
When I still had the ls1 and auto in my car with bolt ons I raced a 5spd vortech charged 02 gt and it was a door to door guy said the car was around 350whp so it sounded about right. I'd say with cams he's making 370-380 at the wheels. With that if he can drive he will beat you but who knows maybe he'll just blow the tires off. I'd get a nice 3600 stall and some sticky tires. Circle d even makes a nice budget 3200 converter for 400. That and some good tires and you'd be seeing mustang head lights in your rear view. 
09-22-2012 | 10:37 AM
#25
3800-4000. Anything less is a waste and you will want more after getting used to it even on a DD.
Get some used salad wheels and some MTs or better yet two more stock rims so he doesn't notice.. With drag radials you will demolish him from a stop. Cam not needed to out run him.
Get some used salad wheels and some MTs or better yet two more stock rims so he doesn't notice.. With drag radials you will demolish him from a stop. Cam not needed to out run him.
09-22-2012 | 11:01 AM
#26
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A rich kid from my town wants to race me we are the two fastest in our schools. we go to separate schools... he just bought a 2002 Saleen Mustang Mods: vortex supercharger, comp cams, fuel pump, injectors and full basani exhaust. he claims he is running 500 hp but i think thats a bit high i was thinking like 450hp... dont know if it is a manual but i do know saleens are HEAVY
My car is a 98 ls1 z28 camaro Mods: Slp lid, ram air, bellow, bigger TB, K and N filter, better MAS, full equall length slp headers with slp all the way to the tips, 3.42 rear-end. 100 pound weight reduction, Tuned, mine is a a4... my guess would be 380-mmmaaaayybeee 400 hp if we go to the local 1/4 mile who would win?? or is it just gonna depend on who hooks?? also anything else cheap i can do for another few ponys i am thinking cam and intake we def get him to see my tallights haha what do you guys think???
Thanks
My car is a 98 ls1 z28 camaro Mods: Slp lid, ram air, bellow, bigger TB, K and N filter, better MAS, full equall length slp headers with slp all the way to the tips, 3.42 rear-end. 100 pound weight reduction, Tuned, mine is a a4... my guess would be 380-mmmaaaayybeee 400 hp if we go to the local 1/4 mile who would win?? or is it just gonna depend on who hooks?? also anything else cheap i can do for another few ponys i am thinking cam and intake we def get him to see my tallights haha what do you guys think???
Thanks
I think his cam is the biggest unknown. If it weren't for that, I'd say the cars are pretty much equal.
09-22-2012 | 01:05 PM
#27
I deffinately want to get a stall im still thinking like a 2800 though. And a buddy of mine has slicks and skinnies.. could i barrow his? and could my stock rear end handle the launch??
09-22-2012 | 01:22 PM
#28
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3200 stall MINIMUM. Trust me, "been there done that" and I'm not one of those guys who crows about how every auto should have a 4,000 stall converter or that those big stalls "drive like stock around town" or any of that BS. 3200rpms is pretty much perfect for a stock cam DD like yours. Slicks and skinnies should be fine on a stock stall or even that 3200 stall. Rearends don't break very often with auto transmissions even when running drag radials. It's the stick shifts that break them.
09-22-2012 | 02:16 PM
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What is the trim on the Vortech? I could definatley see him at 450whp. I know a guy with a V1-T Trim and CMS stage 2's, and a CX Racing front mount and on only 8psi he's making 456whp/416wtq. So I could definatley see him making 450whp with those mods.
09-22-2012 | 03:11 PM
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Put a Polluter cam in it, a set of 235 TFS heads with a FAST 102 intake/TB, a set of 1 7/8" long tube headers, a 4200 stall and a 9" with a spool and 4.56 gears. As long as you are rocking sticky tires you'll out run him.
that car would hurt some feelings.
09-22-2012 | 03:59 PM
#33
Coming from the Mustang world, and now to my HCI SS, I can personally say that a HCI LS1 would absolutely wipe the floor with a 400-450 rwhp 99-04 2 valve. My 04 gt had cams, 100 shot, etc (400 rwhp) and it would hang with, and beat in some cases blown 2 valves with 40-50 more hp than me.
09-22-2012 | 04:09 PM
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Coming from the Mustang world, and now to my HCI SS, I can personally say that a HCI LS1 would absolutely wipe the floor with a 400-450 rwhp 99-04 2 valve. My 04 gt had cams, 100 shot, etc (400 rwhp) and it would hang with, and beat in some cases blown 2 valves with 40-50 more hp than me.
09-22-2012 | 04:29 PM
#36
That's definitely a legit question, but the cars that i'm mentioning definitely have good drivers. Even from a roll (where the driver mod isn't as crucial) I could run with blown 2 valve stangs making 50 more hp than me. And I can tell my HCI setup on this car would crush my old stang...no if, and, or buts about it lol
09-22-2012 | 06:30 PM
#38
I kknow im deffinately not making 380to the wheels! We were talking crank hp.. and we are NOTa friends Haha he said he was making 500hp I asked him if he had any dyno sheets or what made him think he was running 500hp and he never responded and that was 4 days ago.. he just got the car a week ago and I don't see him being a very good driver.. he's a spoiled rich kid.. enough said
09-22-2012 | 07:02 PM
#39
Well so far the but dyno lol, but it's without question a lot stronger than the stang on the nitrous. I've given 2 people a ride in this car already (they've been in my Mustang many of times on the spray) and their but dyno said the same thing lol.
09-23-2012 | 02:34 PM
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The butt dyno can be very deceiving. lol