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Old 09-27-2012 | 08:06 PM
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It doesnt take much to put a hurting on a new 5.0,i totally believe this story,i have killed a handul of them pretty bad with my big cammed car,there strong for stock but there not going to hang with a modded ls car, i ran a modded one, well bolt ons /tune and it was a much better race, still pulled some cars on him though,good kill op, 9x out of 10 people think because there stuff in new its faster than any car before its time
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It really sounds like many of you haven't run up against the properly tuned/built/driven 5.0's.

I would like to see some track times from the guys who street race all the time. I find that the track will humble many of those over-confident on the street.
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Originally Posted by wbt
It really sounds like many of you haven't run up against the properly tuned/built/driven 5.0's.

I would like to see some track times from the guys who street race all the time. I find that the track will humble many of those over-confident on the street.
i agree with everything you've posted.


however,what happened here was the exact opposite. this 5.0 owner was'nt aware of what a properly setup LS can run and he found out very quickly.

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Old 09-28-2012 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by wbt
It really sounds like many of you haven't run up against the properly tuned/built/driven 5.0's.
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word. same with hondas.
Old 09-28-2012 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS


however,what happened here was the exact opposite. this 5.0 owner was'nt aware of what a properly setup LS can run and he found it very quickly.
Amen brother!!!! He asked for it and got it
Old 09-28-2012 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wbt
It really sounds like many of you haven't run up against the properly tuned/built/driven 5.0's.

I would like to see some track times from the guys who street race all the time. I find that the track will humble many of those over-confident on the street.
I find quite the opposite. When a car has to rely on a prepped surface to get the holeshot for there et it can get ugly for them in a hurry on the street where a prepped surface is not available. Alot of these properly set-up 5.0's has seats and parts missing also, then put back on for street goin.....not the same car then. That and some go to a full slick, how does that work when a impromptu street race happens??

This is why I run in street trim, well I have a few street trims-, 18's w/r-compunds, drag wheels , winter wheels.

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Old 09-28-2012 | 02:13 PM
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I find quite the opposite. When a car has to rely on a prepped surface to get the holeshot for there et it can get ugly for them in a hurry on the street where a prepped surface is not available. Alot of these properly set-up 5.0's has seats and parts missing also, then put back on for street goin.....not the same car then. That and some go to a full slick, how does that work when a impromptu street race happens??

This is why I run in street trim, well I have a few street trims-, 18's w/r-compunds, drag wheels , winter wheels.
A proper setup vs improper is mostly driver. Its hard to screw up a bolt on car. The 3 link suspension setup is awesome and in no way needs track prep to be efficient on the street. If you cant get a 3 link to hook, give up. I plan on matching my suspension with an 18x11 and 305 DR. It WILL hook on the street. No doubt ill be able to run low 1.7X 60s on the street with them. As far as pulling weight out is concerned. The seats literally weigh nothing... so anyone yanking seats out is absolutely retarded and is giving someone a reason to hate on there "gutted" car. My car is already at the weight of most of these higher performing GTs and i havent pulled out anything. I have only upgrade parts which have lightened the car up quite a bit. Im down 150lbs under stock and have another 150lbs to go still without removing any pieces... just changing parts. The car will be down to around 3250 with street wheels/tires/trim etc. With good headers and a lightened drivetrain, shouldnt have a problem making 460whp. If i cant get it to trap 125... i fail..
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A proper setup vs improper is mostly driver. Its hard to screw up a bolt on car. The 3 link suspension setup is awesome and in no way needs track prep to be efficient on the street. If you cant get a 3 link to hook, give up. I plan on matching my suspension with an 18x11 and 305 DR. It WILL hook on the street. No doubt ill be able to run low 1.7X 60s on the street with them. As far as pulling weight out is concerned. The seats literally weigh nothing... so anyone yanking seats out is absolutely retarded and is giving someone a reason to hate on there "gutted" car. My car is already at the weight of most of these higher performing GTs and i havent pulled out anything. I have only upgrade parts which have lightened the car up quite a bit. Im down 150lbs under stock and have another 150lbs to go still without removing any pieces... just changing parts. The car will be down to around 3250 with street wheels/tires/trim etc. With good headers and a lightened drivetrain, shouldnt have a problem making 460whp. If i cant get it to trap 125... i fail..
125 is going be tough...
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Originally Posted by evangto87
A proper setup vs improper is mostly driver. Its hard to screw up a bolt on car. The 3 link suspension setup is awesome and in no way needs track prep to be efficient on the street. If you cant get a 3 link to hook, give up. I plan on matching my suspension with an 18x11 and 305 DR. It WILL hook on the street. No doubt ill be able to run low 1.7X 60s on the street with them. As far as pulling weight out is concerned. The seats literally weigh nothing... so anyone yanking seats out is absolutely retarded and is giving someone a reason to hate on there "gutted" car. My car is already at the weight of most of these higher performing GTs and i havent pulled out anything. I have only upgrade parts which have lightened the car up quite a bit. Im down 150lbs under stock and have another 150lbs to go still without removing any pieces... just changing parts. The car will be down to around 3250 with street wheels/tires/trim etc. With good headers and a lightened drivetrain, shouldnt have a problem making 460whp. If i cant get it to trap 125... i fail..
Not all. Some guys "proper" set-up is for drag racing, some is is for handling. If you think there is no time for either left in their opposite set-ups the maybe you should give up now. If you think your car will hook like these 5.0 do @ 6000+ clutch dumps on that 18' dr then you should share your knowledge and tell those guys what they are doin wrong.

As far as the seats go....leave them in and don't delete the rears then.

460whp....do those things get to that with bolt-ons?? Ohio claimed he did but his bolt-on stick car did'nt run like 460 whp. If the do then are they on pump,e85, or race gas?
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80 percent of the bolt on 5.0s at Cecil yank out their seats(pass and rear),side mirrors,spare tire,front sway bar,floor mats etc.....

The guys with power adders don't even bother with that nonsense...
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460Whp is plenty in a light weight geared n.a. application. And calm down hio. Wasn't trying to start a fight. I was just implying the 3 link is very easy to setup. Most guys think a control arm swap is all it takes. Setting up the geometry is most of the work. Mine is setup more in the middle. I understand the street and trsvk are 2 different setups. And yes 460 whp is possible. But it takes weight removal from the dtivetrain. There's around 25-30whp more in the boss motor then the gts.
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
i agree with everything you've posted.


however,what happened here was the exact opposite. this 5.0 owner was'nt aware of what a properly setup LS can run and he found out very quickly.
I'm guessing your sig isn't current lol
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I'm guessing your sig isn't current lol
no. i like to keep members guessing.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I find quite the opposite. When a car has to rely on a prepped surface to get the holeshot for there et it can get ugly for them in a hurry on the street where a prepped surface is not available. Alot of these properly set-up 5.0's has seats and parts missing also, then put back on for street goin.....not the same car then. That and some go to a full slick, how does that work when a impromptu street race happens??

This is why I run in street trim, well I have a few street trims-, 18's w/r-compunds, drag wheels , winter wheels.
Bullshit. See my sig for why.

The street offers just as many if not more variables vs. the track. The track will be more consistent regardless. If you don't believe that then you are a waste of oxygen. Your spin is terrible as you attribute these "properly setup" 5.0's as magical unicorns. Step out of your ego as there are plenty who run on the street that will clean house. I guarantee you the same can be said of the LSx f-bod cars.
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Originally Posted by wbt
It really sounds like many of you haven't run up against the properly tuned/built/driven 5.0's.

I would like to see some track times from the guys who street race all the time. I find that the track will humble many of those over-confident on the street.
FWIW a new 5.0 tied me to a post at the track Friday night,not sure of his mods but he had DR's.

Him 1.952 60 ft 1/8th 8.175 at 86.93mph 1/4 12.530 at 113.80

Me 1.992 60ft 1/8th 8.430 at 86.89mph 1/4 12.973 at 108.48

Got me twice, again on the hot lap with similar #'s.

BTW the parody threads longer
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Bullshit. See my sig for why.

The street offers just as many if not more variables vs. the track. The track will be more consistent regardless. If you don't believe that then you are a waste of oxygen. Your spin is terrible as you attribute these "properly setup" 5.0's as magical unicorns. Step out of your ego as there are plenty who run on the street that will clean house. I guarantee you the same can be said of the LSx f-bod cars.
Your sig is bullshit and your a dumbass. I explained why to you in another post in another thread, but your to stupid to comprehend it.

besides if you could comprehend I said the street vs track is the same as you. You should step out of your ego....the new 5.0's are good. But w/o utilizing their gearing, rear and traction at the track they are not as spectacular as alot think they are. But they are one of the best cars Ford has ever made IMO.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
460Whp is plenty in a light weight geared n.a. application. And calm down hio. Wasn't trying to start a fight. I was just implying the 3 link is very easy to setup. Most guys think a control arm swap is all it takes. Setting up the geometry is most of the work. Mine is setup more in the middle. I understand the street and trsvk are 2 different setups. And yes 460 whp is possible. But it takes weight removal from the dtivetrain. There's around 25-30whp more in the boss motor then the gts.
I know 460 is enough to get there if it runs like 460 and not 400 like ohio's did. And I also realize the Boss has a bit more powa. I think you can get near 125, not at all unreasonable. Back in the day I ran 120 w/407rwhp @ full weight. I just wish you would run the damn thing already.
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i did a roll with a full bolt on 5.0 . didnt impress me any.. couldnt even see him in the side mirror.
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Originally Posted by got-a-ls1
i did a roll with a full bolt on 5.0 . didnt impress me any.. couldnt even see him in the side mirror.
your trapping 109 in the 8th... what do you expect?


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