Hyundai vs Acura
12-26-2012, 04:12 PM
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SSARME, unless you are going with a new casting head (PRC,Mast) I wouldnt bother even thinking about it.
12-26-2012, 04:13 PM
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So what is the answer to the sti vs supra question? I think it's a trick question because the sti (04-06) with stock 7000rpm rev limit and gear set has to be in 5th gear to hit 103mph which is an extra shift than most other cars including the supra would not have to do so it hurts it's over all time and et. Roll race with an unknown MPH starting and finishing at may yield different results and make the race closer, but by how much I'm uncertain of.
12-26-2012, 04:21 PM
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So what is the answer to the sti vs supra question? I think it's a trick question because the sti (04-06) with stock 7000rpm rev limit and gear set has to be in 5th gear to hit 103mph which is an extra shift than most other cars including the supra would not have to do so it hurts it's over all time and et. Roll race with an unknown MPH starting and finishing at may yield different results and make the race closer, but by how much I'm uncertain of.
12-26-2012, 04:29 PM
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Which of the two cars is faster in a roll race? The STI is an odd ball for drag racing with the stock gearing and redline. The top of forth is only good to 100mph so if you are trapping 103mph or more you are going into 5th which is going to play a factor in your et and trap given the extra shift.
If it's subjective and acceptable on what the individual thinks is fast then how are you ever to be satisfied by an individuals answer?
12-26-2012, 04:30 PM
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12-26-2012, 04:32 PM
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IMO the Supra is faster. But it clearly loses the race. So one could argue that the STI is faster. And then you have a 40 page shitfest because people don't understand that their opinions are just that, opinions.
I found it relevant because earlier in this thread people were bitching about roll races lol
I found it relevant because earlier in this thread people were bitching about roll races lol
12-26-2012, 04:37 PM
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Muscle car tradition wasn't built around roll racing. Roll racing became popular with the rice crowd first and now its very common. Hell even I have gotten where roll racing is easier than swapping wheels etc, but my heart is w dig racing.
12-26-2012, 04:37 PM
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12-26-2012, 04:42 PM
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I actually like both even though im setup for a dig.
12-26-2012, 04:47 PM
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I completely agree on liking dig racing more than roll racing. I wouldn't go blaming the rice crowd completely though. It's a combination of many variables. It used to be that if you made 300whp you were pretty damn fast, then that moved to 400whp, then 500whp, and so on. Now adays if you don't have 500+whp then you are the minority. More power on shitty streets means far more spinning too. Now you can prep streets, but the threat of getting busted with more severe consequences plays a huge part in why it's easier to just line them up from a roll, honk it off, and get the hell out of there. Also as you mentioned it's easier to do roll racing. Alot of us guys are older, have families and work obligations. Don't have time to prep the **** out of a car, find a stretch of road, prep the road, get some runs in all while avoiding detection. I take it to the track, it's just easier to plan for than staying out to 4 in the morning to get some runs in.
12-26-2012, 05:06 PM
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Oh yeah I agree. 14s used ro be fast. And it has gotten faster and faster. But the drag radials have evolved too. By far the best place to dig is the track but you see me turn down a dig or roll on the street.
12-26-2012, 06:27 PM
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I completely agree on liking dig racing more than roll racing. I wouldn't go blaming the rice crowd completely though. It's a combination of many variables. It used to be that if you made 300whp you were pretty damn fast, then that moved to 400whp, then 500whp, and so on. Now adays if you don't have 500+whp then you are the minority. More power on shitty streets means far more spinning too. Now you can prep streets, but the threat of getting busted with more severe consequences plays a huge part in why it's easier to just line them up from a roll, honk it off, and get the hell out of there. Also as you mentioned it's easier to do roll racing. Alot of us guys are older, have families and work obligations. Don't have time to prep the **** out of a car, find a stretch of road, prep the road, get some runs in all while avoiding detection. I take it to the track, it's just easier to plan for than staying out to 4 in the morning to get some runs in.
This^
Many races are impromptu.
Hell, i have a few guys in town but its not like we can drag the hugger out and go galevant town. So many races are random encounters.
I lobe dig and hugger is set up for it.....but many races jst happen.
Then there is the cobalt.
Sure i will do a dig for laughs but if u wana see what power the lil DD puts out, we need to roll. Doesnt make me one of thise guys set up wrong,, ifs jst my fun DD and its fun as hell to freught train around people 2nd-4th
12-26-2012, 10:02 PM
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fine... stop making recommendations on a platform you clearly dont have an educated knowledge about.
I would throw in my .02 if ssarme posted what he already has complete. All I see is a bunch of sarcasm in his signature.
but i'd recommend suspension/drivetrain/unsprung weight before adding more power. Those are far weaker points than the factory ls3 heads.
I would throw in my .02 if ssarme posted what he already has complete. All I see is a bunch of sarcasm in his signature.
but i'd recommend suspension/drivetrain/unsprung weight before adding more power. Those are far weaker points than the factory ls3 heads.
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12-26-2012, 10:07 PM
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IMO the Supra is faster. But it clearly loses the race. So one could argue that the STI is faster. And then you have a 40 page shitfest because people don't understand that their opinions are just that, opinions.
I found it relevant because earlier in this thread people were bitching about roll races lol
I found it relevant because earlier in this thread people were bitching about roll races lol
Spinning ain't winning, but trapping 10mph over someone else clearly shows you're faster but you just require either some practice or some suspension.
Then again I suffered from this before I upgraded suspension. My one track pass before it got shut down on street tires, 5psi, detuned, no meth stock suspension, shitty 3rd world asphalt track was like a 13.2@125-126 lol.
12-27-2012, 02:37 AM
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Back on topic. The 6-speed TL's in general are a good bit quicker than the Auto's. 4th and 5th gear on the Auto's are overdrive gears. They try to go from 110-150 in 4th gear like a Corvette would without the corvette power. There is a gap in gearing between 110-130 on the auto's, hence why you probably came back. A 6-speed, even NON-Type S would have smoked your Sonata. Also, 0-110 with an auto (base or type S) you probably would lose as well.
Nice runs though and good luck with your new ride.
Nice runs though and good luck with your new ride.
12-27-2012, 08:59 AM
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2ss, lift specs on that cam? maybe a slightly different grind may help ya out too in the power department...but i'm sure JRE did their homework and didn't just give you an "off the shelf" blower cam
12-27-2012, 09:45 AM
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