SneakySRT

Yeah idk about 500+HP stock turbo even on E85

adamantium

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Yup, doesn't happen. My buddy barely made over 4xxwhp with a stock evo 8 longblock HKS 272s e85 and full bolt on, evo 9 turbo and like 38psi (IIRC). Tuned by AWD motorsports. Clarified with my buddy who owns a 9 sec DSM and he said 400whp is the norm and 450whp is the most he's ever seen or heard of and that's highly unlikely.

4xxwhp makes those videos alot more believable if you think about it. 200+whp over the evo, that should happen.

liqidvenom

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That was a walking of a serious nature. That Evo was moving.

LASTOFTHEBREED02T/A

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As far as i remember Mike (Evo Owner) he said 450whp with a stock turbo. and was suppose to make around 600 on new set up...


Here is the Dyno sheet to prove his current AWHP, Bottom of page.

http://www.thirdhonk.com/community/i...e-3#post-25108

ohioborn80

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Just going by what he told me when we ran. He said completely built engine, cams, bolt ons, e85, and Max boost. He mention he had went low 11's high 10's at 128-132 spinning.

ohioborn80

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Doing some searchng some have made over 500 on stock turbo. And they hav e pushed the stock turbo to 34 and 36lbs.


http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-dyn...rbo-hp-tq.html

http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-gen...o-8-turbo.html

http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-dyn...ock-turbo.html

ohioborn80

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His current is around 630-640whp last I spoke to him about 3 days ago.

adamantium

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Def not stock untouched turbo, in his build it said he made 525 on the FP black. So he def not on a stock untouched turbo when he ran you if he was really making 525.

"Manley 85.5mm 9.5:1 Flat Top Pistons
Manley H Beam Connecting
ACL Tri-metal bearings
ARP Head Stud Kit
Cometic MLS Head Gasket
Clutch Masters FX300
Clutch Kit Clutch Masters Steel Flywheel GrimmSpeed 3 port EBC
DeatschWerks1000cc Injectors
NGK Cooper Plugs
Gates Timing & Balance Shaft Belt
Gates Serpentine Belt
GSC S2 Cams
GSC Beehive Valve Springs
GReddy bov
Tein S. Tech Springs
Whiteline 24mm Rear sway
GReddy urbo Timer
Whiteline endlinks
Injen Intercooler Piping
Bushcur FMIC
Stoptech Evo 8 & 9 Stainless Steel Front Brake lines Stoptech Evo 8 & 9 Stainless Steel Rear Brake Lines TS Shifter cable/ base bushings
TS drive shaft bushings
custom rear diff bushings
5 angle valve job

With the set up at the point i got tuned on E85 and made about 410whp/ 410tq... i wasnt able to track the car due to my 6 speed trans not being able to take the tq increase and it got destroyed along with the brand new clutch ..."

Thats what my buddy made with a stock evo 8 longblock, hks 272 cams and an untouched evo 9 turbo on e85. Thats what most of them make.

ohioborn80

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Cause your buddy made low don't mean every one did. Look I just posted a vid of guy making over 500 on stock turbo.


Also This evo didn't make 525 with a FP Black. He made 593 on low PSi and 640 on his high PSI.

We have another that made over 700whp on a stock block with a upgraded turbo tuned by JMS. Turned it down to 650whp an ran mid 10's at 138. Matter fact same guy built this evo in my race and in Viper.


Another Local just made 640whp on stock engine and FP RED and ran 10.4@137. All built by same guy but tuned by JMS.

Amd Mike wasn't on a stock engine as well. He on a built engine. Built engine to make power for when had money to do turbo. FMIC, Cams, Full bolt ons, head, E85 max boost.

Most hp evo there is a 815whp Built evo named KID. Built 2.2 FP black, 46lbs boost.

adamantium

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Read the comments in his video. Like i said, not the norm. Usually what i see and most see is 400-450 fully maxed. That setup has a bunch of max effort things which help and was no where near the same engine setup as stated in the evo in this video.

Like i said seeing over 450whp is unheard of, 1 person has gone over 5xxwhp with a stock untouched turbo, his engine setup he states on youtube cost him 8k electric water pump im sure it has a ported head and all these things that free up power, def not the norm. which is what i was refering to. If you ran him on the stock turbo untouched he never made 520whp so that is irrelevant.

My buddies car makes what 90% of the evo9 cammed e85 setups make. Look around and see for yourself. I mean **** your buddies car made less than he did with a built cammed/ported head and bigger valve then his stock longblock/head with cams setup.

My buddies car on stock cams, evo9 turbo and e85 got into the high 11s, impressed the tuner quite a bit. It was def a quick car and made great power for a car with over 100k.

He just said what it made in his build thread with the fpblack.

Build 1.4

Mishimoto Radiator
2150cc inj
E85 walbro 400
FP Black
ported intake Mani
S2 68mm Throttle body
AMS FMIC
Dejon 4in intake
Perrin BOV

This build was tuned and set up ... I made 525whp/437 tq on 27 PSI... I made such little power due the stock fuel rail, stock FPR and the fuel pump being too restrictive this set up was by far my favorite .. such a freaking blast ... but after being tuned I was on my way home and was passing a truck and it kicked a piece of metal under the car, tore into the oil pan and destroyed the motor ... and now the new build that is soon to be started ...

ohioborn80

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Your comparing your buddies stock engine, etc etc to a fully built engine with every thing like Mike's car. Two big differences. Looking on the forum links and bunch have made 440-480whp.

I am waiting on Mike to Txt me back to confirm what he made with his built engine, ie camsd. head, bolt ons, FMIC, E85 and stock turbo. Its his he will know more then any one.

And your buddy making 525 with a FP Black and built engine sucks if on E85. Maybe 93. Mike made 490 on 93 and really low boost. He made 593 on 36 and 640whp on 42 with his FP black. and same engine as stock turbo.

adamantium

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Very misleading aswell on the mod list it says the turbo is ported...

04 SSL EVO full weight minus spare tire and Jack
-IX Stock trubo Ported
-GSC S2 with Kiggly beehive valve springs
-ETS 5in IC and 3in piping with ETS intake pipe
-RC 1600s's
-AEM EMS
-TiAL BOV
-255hp intank and inline
-Cust cold air intake
-E98 fuel
-FP WG actuater
-O2 housing
-BS remove
-11:1 alum rod motor
-Electric water pump
-light head port work
-intake spacer
-Mil.Spec 65mm TB
-ETS 3.5in TBE
-Exedy HR triple
-EnglishRacing built tranny with a IX taller 1st
-Small serp belt to by pass the PS/AC
-Magnus Cast intake
-Spark Tech Non CDI COP
-ETS larger lower turbo Elbow

ohioborn80

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The owner of this car built mikes car, JMS tuned it. 700 on a stock block was unheard of also. But they did it.

adamantium

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My buddy made the same as he did with a stock untouched turbo and stock high mileaged evo8 longblock... Can you read? Or are you retarded?
ok.
Dick head, thats quoted from your buddies build thread. Jeez you are a retard. My buddies car never had an FP.

Learn to read and comprehend, please.

ohioborn80

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This is the other EVO I was talking about. And my bad its still a 2.0. I thought was a 2.2. This is one that I raced when no one else would.

adamantium

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Okay? Completely irrelevant and offtopic.

ohioborn80

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No did you read his dyno sheet? He made 593 on the FP black on E85. Where you get 525 on current? He made under 500 on 93. And that was before he turnd up the boost more to 640whp now. The 525 was old old. And he sent me txt back. He made 485 on the completely built engine and E85 stock turbo when said and done. Then he had some issues and had to fix some stuff. turn it down while waiting on the FP Black. He said when we ran he was around 470 or so. Every one just said 500hp cause thought he was still around 480's. And his best time was 11.1@130 on all seasons.

Right after that is when did FP nlack and build 2 for engine.

adamantium

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Dude. Read. 1st post under "Build 1.4"

http://www.thirdhonk.com/community/i...d-take-2.2240/

Quote from his build thread.

Mishimoto Radiator
2150cc inj
E85 walbro 400
FP Black
ported intake Mani
S2 68mm Throttle body
AMS FMIC
Dejon 4in intake
Perrin BOV

This build was tuned and set up ... I made 525whp/437 tq on 27 PSI... I made such little power due the stock fuel rail, stock FPR and the fuel pump being too restrictive this set up was by far my favorite .. such a freaking blast ... but after being tuned I was on my way home and was passing a truck and it kicked a piece of metal under the car, tore into the oil pan and destroyed the motor ... and now the new build that is soon to be started ...


Stop being an idiot and read before you spew bullshit.

2StepsAhead

One doesnt = some though, this car ran e98, no power steering/ac belt, electric water pump, high compression and a couple of other things that youre not going to see on other stock turbo builds and the psi isnt the end all...believe me Im an evo owner running 31 psi on the stock turbo and it just turns into a hot air machine, they run the higher psi for the huge boost spike it isnt efficient there and just bleeds off.

adamantium

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Ill break it down for you since its obviously to hard for you to compehend.


Cliffs
>You said his car made 525 on a stock untouched turbo.
>I disagree.
>You google search and respond with 1 max effort setup, that ends up having a ported turbo (stated in his mod list on the link you linked me to).
>So i said okay not the norm.
> In his build he STATES he made 410whp with a stock untouched turbo, meaning if he made 525 when he ran you it was not on a stock untouched turbo. then i find in his build that he HAS made 525whp but it was with an FP black. Like i stated.

>You don't understand how to read.


Exactly what im trying to state, its very out of the norm. This thread was going way to fast to be able to get into detail, but i was waiting for another evo owner to come in and add to it since i know more evo owners are on here.