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Old 01-26-2013, 12:13 AM
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Keep in mind that the 5.0 that made 507 was not a all out h/c build. If anybody desides too put forth the effort on a max effort h/c setup It will make big power. To bad they don't have the nice aftermarket heads like the lsx guys do.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
I highly doubt that... but i always look forward to new technologies of different brands. I like the rivalry and competition. What i dont like is the douchebaggery and nutswinging that comes from each side of it.
This. I love the speculation and BS people talked on here when the ZL1 was going to be released, and it was several MPH slower than the GT500 at the track, then everyone became a circuit racer god on here LOL.

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Keep in mind that the 5.0 that made 507 was not a all out h/c build. If anybody desides too put forth the effort on a max effort h/c setup It will make big power. To bad they don't have the nice aftermarket heads like the lsx guys do.
You don't need it. A platform with a well designed head to begin with doesn't need an aftermarket casting, several imports don't use aftermarket casting heads and there are ALOT of fast imports out there. For example hondas, the 2.7l strokers are making low 4's with stock head CNC ported.

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Old 01-26-2013, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Detoxx03
You look like you can handle it so if you see me let me know cause you're more than welcome



Come one man you're reading into it way too much. I came from having two f bodies and doing all of that stuff to shave weight. Buying aftermarket suspension, wheels, taking the jack and spare tire out, fiberglass hood, etc. my comment was really based on I did it and I wouldn't want to do that again that's why when I got this car it wasn't going to be heavily modded. I love all cars and don't care what you have. If I was a pompous ******* and whatever else you said do you think I would offer my passenger seat to a compete stranger? He might smoke have rabies or some **** lol.
Its all good. I never said you were a pompous *******, just that that statement was lol.

And when i bought this car... i had no intention of modding it at all. Unfortunately i cant leave **** alone lol. I cant speak for coyotes, but from what i can say about the boss...is it keeps surprising me more and more as i play with it. Im happy with it
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Originally Posted by adamantium
This. I love the speculation and BS people talked on here when the ZL1 was going to be released, and it was several MPH slower than the GT500 at the track, then everyone became a track god on here LOL.



You don't need it. A platform with a well designed head to begin with doesn't need an aftermarket casting, several imports don't use aftermarket casting heads and there are ALOT of fast imports out there. For example hondas, the 2.7l strokers are making low 4's with stock head CNC ported.
Personally... unless youre building an all out race car... i think the stock cams are the faster choice for the street car. Id love a max effort head on this car with stock adjustable cams. It seems when eliminating the tivct... you lose a **** ton of powerband.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
Personally... unless youre building an all out race car... i think the stock cams are the faster choice for the street car. Id love a max effort head on this car with stock adjustable cams. It seems when eliminating the tivct... you lose a **** ton of powerband.
Dude with the k-series hondas which pretty much uses the same **** as the 5.0's use, you are able to run some pretty aggressive **** without even skipping a beat on idle/drive ability. The high end K-series cars eliminate the VTC **** though and run single lobe cams. I wouldn't be surprised if it made great power on stock cams with a badass port. A friend of mine did this with his k24. He had a light port job, stock cams, **** bolt ons and the car made what most cammed k24s make.

I wouldn't be surprised if the coyotes wouldn't even need an aftermarket head casting.

Its funny how the japs had luxury cars with modular v8 in the late 80s that put out more power than most american sports car v8s at the time, with ALOT less cubes too.
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Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
So becasue there are 3 out of thousands(.03%) then it becomes common for your average H/C Coyote to make 500-550rwhp

Coming from the same dude that said all 5.0's ran 11's bone-stock
recheck your math. 3/1000 does not = .03%
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Originally Posted by automach1
Keep in mind that the 5.0 that made 507 was not a all out h/c build. If anybody desides too put forth the effort on a max effort h/c setup It will make big power. To bad they don't have the nice aftermarket heads like the lsx guys do.
Dude your dumb. Your still still in cam only ls territory. Ls7's don't even require a cam to do that and with a stage 3 GMPP cam can get to ~600whp on all gm parts.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Dude your dumb. Your still still in cam only ls territory. Ls7's don't even require a cam to do that and with a stage 3 GMPP cam can get to ~600whp on all gm parts.
500+whp is came only ls territory? I wasnt aware. And why do you insist on always comparing a 5.0 to a 7.0 in terms of naturally aspirated potential?
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Originally Posted by WSsick
In my neck of the woods, your average F-body makes a C6 look a little chubby.

That setup in an F-body at St. Louis F-body weight...



I'm not calling BS, but I sift through SVTP a decent amount, and aside from that initial cammed 5.0, I haven't seen any cammed or heads/cams 5.0s. Care to enlighten me? You make it sound like they are plentiful so odd that I missed them. Some links would be nice, especially to these 550rwhp ones.
Gotta watch those 5.0 guys. They will throw some special fuel in it and not tell anyone. Then they pick up a extra 25-40 and make their **** look real good.
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I paid $220 shipped for my paceshitters. Can't beat em for the price.
yea ya can....ported 01-02 exhaust mani's
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Haven't there been ls3s make 500whp cam only?
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Gotta watch those 5.0 guys. They will throw some special fuel in it and not tell anyone. Then they pick up a extra 25-40 and make their **** look real good.


yea ya can....ported 01-02 exhaust mani's
you have ported 01-02 exhaust manifolds? really?
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Originally Posted by evangto87
500+whp is came only ls territory? I wasnt aware. And why do you insist on always comparing a 5.0 to a 7.0 in terms of naturally aspirated potential?
Cam only 500+whp only apply's to LS7 on stock displacement. LS3's can pull 485-495 with a larger Cam. I have yet to see 500+ cam only.
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Originally Posted by AWDTBSS
Haven't there been ls3s make 500whp cam only?
no....
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Originally Posted by evangto87
i agree he def over hypes what they can do on occasion. But on the 500-550whp part, that is correct. Those are ported heads, aftermarket cam numbers. 100% percent of them have made within that range....however there have only been like 4 of them to spend the 6k(on just heads, cams) it takes to do that lol
Doesn't that jpc race car with crazy compression, race gas, built motor, built everything make 550? Your average car will do that?


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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...24-timing.html
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screams generous dyno my man, I pulled 460 on a mustang dyno prior to driveline/clutch and wheel upgrades and then pulled a 509 on a dynojet. But that was hardly cam only, fully lightened driveline components and 18lb wheels and fast 102. Thats on a larger cam spec than his. 520 is a huge stretch and most cant even pull those numbers on CNC heads.

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uhh yeah ^ dyno jet
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Isn't that every dyno that the hp record holder always dynos on lol, so how's it differ from the 5.0 vids
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500+ on a dynojet is even high for a cam only setup. I cant speak for the 5.0's. I can only speak for LS3's.
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I'm saying almost every time someone makes the most whp on a setup it's on a generous dyno, so it's prolly no different from the 5.0s posted


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