Camper

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thats probably accurate LOL

Detoxx03

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Absolutely they are but it's easier to do in a vette because you don't have as much drivetrain loss.

PhantaZm

lmao Me too

HioSSilver

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Yep.
Yep...on a buddy's car. We got it to go into the 11's on them.
Ls7's will go over 500whp with just bolt-ons and 550+ cam only. Good ls3's should easily best my ls6 and I would expect it to get near 500whp cam only.

Cammed 02

Yes. Its been done quite a few times now. With all of the bolt ons and ported intake or FAST plus the right cam it is possible.

Johnnystock

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That Vette is scary...The rape was absolute!!


Google 5sec search: ''cam 500rwhp LS3'' : http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...r-500rwhp.html

Where is the 550rwhp N/A Coyote?

I like the fact that 118mph is comical for a Coyote!! Yep good one!...

Johnnystock

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JPC top dogs package is H/C

http://www.jpcracing.com/top-dogjpc-...500hp-package/

adamantium

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FKN lol @ the reactions in that thread. Its hilarious how all the guys cant fathom that a GM makes that power with a cam and bolt ons.
LMFAOOO

dekan513

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there have been ls3 cam only make like 2 -5 rwhp shy of 500

marc97taws6

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My bad, missed that last post. The original one before that definitely sounded like downplaying though. Good save! Too bad I missed it

Your logic makes sense wording it that way. I think it is just most guys can only afford X at one point and then when they save up enough money instead of buying another car they just mod it.

Seeing as how I just had tuition ACH'd out of my checking account (OUCH! ), yeah I can
TSP does have a great value for their LT products. Does anybody know of a thread where people ever compared numbers between TSP 1-7/8" LTs and other brands? That'd be interesting to see

I remember doing the whole Ebay SS knockoffs for the LT1 after seeing an article of minimal gains between the LPP LT's/Pacesetters/SS Ebay ones.

$260 shipped IIRC for SS headers and a SS ORY
Damn Honda taking away from the sound of the 5.0...
This. I know there have been quite a few that have been super close to 500rwhp cam only

Hahaha, good find! I'll have to poke in there and see if I can find a few other gems like that

ohioborn80

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LOL..It was at the Import VS Domestic shootout. The 5.0 actually took second. Lost to a N/A fully built import that ran a hair faster. Still impressive for a bolt on engine running 9's at 133+

evangto87

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so much wrong information in this thread that its not worth talking about..

CyberGrey Z28

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Can we keep comparing the Honda motor to the Coyote motor, I find it hilarious!!

Thousands can be 1001-9999 genius. Nice try though. How's the boat?

True there have been a few. We'll keep our cam only 500+rwhp builds while the nustwingers keep their 3-4 500rwhp builds. Sounds fair to me.

assasinator

i dont think you understand. a well built coyote/roadrunner designed for srtip use is available at your local ford dealer over the counter.....it makes just short of 700hp and IS NOT RADICAL. 5.1 liters. its streetable with lower power on pump. its not a trade off because the VCT you guys like to laugh at allows it to make mid range torque.

im not attacking you, but there is hype, and reality. hype is bullshit stories of near stock runs, and reality is what a modern 5 liter VCT four valve is capable of...at 9k rpms.

Camper

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alot of LS nutswingers in here TBH. Making up alot of nonsense.

assasinator

sorry man, that is nowhere near top dog anymore. that is a decent package. 600hp packages are avialble also. Ford sells the 5 liter cobra jet. it eclipses anything local builders have done yet. the motor is three years old and 700hp.


im not comparing it to anything else. it stands on it's own as a nice high tech engine. and by the way does very nicely in its prototype form in Daytona prototype racing.

its based on the yates/roush daytona engine. loosely. not hyping it. it's a matter of fact and history.

HioSSilver

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The engine I found was this http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...KeyField=22576 It has 12.5 compression which would not run optimally on pump. It costs $17,500 and has boss cams. Now it's just a guess, but I bet it will need more than boss cams to make 700hp.

I love the vct/vvt whatever it's called these days. The over head cam is a great design, but ford has never even attempted to utilize it until recently. They need to turn rpm.
Not all....just the opposite.
Prototype engines are restricted to around 550 hp. Of course GrandAm is always playing with restrictor sizes and rpm limits so no one has a advantage....well I should say who ever they want has a advantage.

I don't know about now cause things change. But years ago when I was around that racing the ls stuff had to run a stock ls6 intake and tb. The kept limiting the ls rpm. Eventually they even reduced their engine size to 5L.

HioSSilver

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This one says 500+hp http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...KeyField=23300

Is it common for you ford guys to say 600 when there 500 or 700 when there is no rating at all? Kinda seems that way.

What do you think now Camper?

Camper

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Im not a ford guy,im and LS guy. I have no clue what ford motors are capable of. My statements are directed at the claimed COMMON 500+whp LS3 cam only. Its exxagerated nonsense.

i've done so much research on LS3's that its rediculious.

Maybe what you consider Cam only and what I consider cam only are different?

Cammed 02

Whoever said 500rwhp from a cam-only LS3 is "common" practice is a bit exaggerative, however, it is possible. Its been done several times, actually, with 1/4 trap speeds to back it up. A true full bolt-on LS3 with ported LS3 intake/TB or ported Fast, EWP, U/D Pulley, 1-7/8" headers, no cats etc will dyno in the ~440rwhp range on a dynojet. A big duration cam and the right tune and you could definitely see a 60+whp gain from just the cam. Heck in my LS1 I went from 347rwhp full bolt-ons (minus Fast & EWP) to 418 with the addition of a Vindicator 240/244 cam, Ported Fast 92 & EWP, so its very realistic for an LS3 to make those numbers just not common.