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Old 01-27-2013, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Only issue I have with that is E85. Yes it is pump gas. But bring that same car here and he is screwed. 1 e85 station and have to be military to use it.
That's true but even on 93 people have made over 600, 93 is what Livernois used and a few others I've seen
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Originally Posted by five0three
Hello, first post lol

I dont suppose i understand why comparing the current gen mustang to (until last week lol) current gen corvettes. Aren't we all in agreement that they are a completely different class of vehicle, with similarly differing price tags?
this kind of banter is what makes this site so fun , get in on it bro
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Originally Posted by Knight-Z06
this kind of banter is what makes this site so fun , get in on it bro
if you say so lol

I don't know, Id be kinda pissed if my c6z has to worry about 26k (new) mustangs with 5k worth of mods showing me tail lights...
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so u got just 4500 in ur 5.0 engine, i call bs on that
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Originally Posted by dekan513
so u got just 4500 in ur 5.0 engine, i call bs on that
no no no. i have zip into my engine (a few boxes with some things waiting though). this isnt about my car. I was speaking in a hypothetical sense...
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Cost me 5500 to make 713whp on my new 5.0 Pretty cheap. Show me a GM your going to mod for 4500 and get 713whp. Buying all new parts. Cause I'm not buying someone's used SC or cam or anything else. And my blower is good up to 1000whp..unfortunately the engine limit so far depending on tune seems to be huge range of 650-800whp.

Anxious want you to make that 700whp on something compatible not a ZR1 where have to spend 130k for the car.

If I have a13 GT500 I could made 700whp with bolt ons.
Link to Paxton kit for that cheap? I know you bought an early model one
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Link to Paxton kit for that cheap? I know you bought an early model one
http://www.teambeefcakeracing.com


he hands out a pretty good forum discount to svtp members...
Old 01-27-2013, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Link to Paxton kit for that cheap? I know you bought an early model one
Call teambeefcakeracing.com. buddy just got full kit from him for 4500. I paid 3500 for my tuner kit, 500 for injectors, 300 for boss and 550 for driveshaft. Boss intakes jumped in price now. Can't find one new for less then 440.

Jpc was giving great deals also.
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Originally Posted by Cammed 02
Roughly 160whp gain with just cam & bolt-ons...I highly doubt it. Most dyno in the 540-550whp range with the GMPP stage 3 and full bolt-ons. That's one nasty cam tho.
If I remember correctly they state the stage 3 cam is worth 90hp in a ls7. A full bolt-on ls7 goes over 500 rwhp. That gets you around 600hp. Stage 2 gets ya 40hp. http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e...t/viewall.html

Now dynos are dynos. But I can tell ya from my bolt-on ls6 that a ls7 should get me 80-100 rwhp.
Originally Posted by Cammed 02
That's why I like to use power-to-weight and quarter-mile trap speeds as an indication of said cars true power output - as opposed to just dyno numbers.
Me too.
Originally Posted by ohioborn80
http://store.chevroletperformance.co...-19211710--%3E


That's for 2006 ls7 ..call a dealer and a lot of them want 20-24k.
I've seen them for $12,999. They're $14,195 from Scoggin Dickey now.
Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Only issue I have with that is E85. Yes it is pump gas. But bring that same car here and he is screwed. 1 e85 station and have to be military to use it.
None around here either.....you use to cry when I said **** about e85. All gas gets pumped. But we all know what pump gas means. No reason to bullshit it.
Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Cost me 5500 to make 713whp on my new 5.0 Pretty cheap. Show me a GM your going to mod for 4500 and get 713whp. Buying all new parts. Cause I'm not buying someone's used SC or cam or anything else. And my blower is good up to 1000whp..unfortunately the engine limit so far depending on tune seems to be huge range of 650-800whp.

Anxious want you to make that 700whp on something compatible not a ZR1 where have to spend 130k for the car.

If I have a13 GT500 I could made 700whp with bolt ons.
Anything ls you could bolt that blower on would make 700 I guess. Just need the proper brackets for the application. You bought a tuner kit right?? There usually a little cheaper. Most blower kits are over $6000.
Old 01-27-2013, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by five0three
http://www.teambeefcakeracing.com


he hands out a pretty good forum discount to svtp members...
Its not svt members. Its everyone. He rather sell 100 kits and make 20 off each kit then be like other and sell 10 kits making 100 off one, or one kit and make 1000.


There is least 15 guys on s197 that have bought from him.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Its not svt members. Its everyone. He rather sell 100 kits and make 20 off each kit then be like other and sell 10 kits making 100 off one, or one kit and make 1000.


There is least 15 guys on s197 that have bought from him.
you are correct. I dont really visit the others ofter (s197 is pretty good).
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
If I remember correctly they state the stage 3 cam is worth 90hp in a ls7. A full bolt-on ls7 goes over 500 rwhp. That gets you around 600hp. Stage 2 gets ya 40hp. http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e...t/viewall.html

Now dynos are dynos. But I can tell ya from my bolt-on ls6 that a ls7 should get me 80-100 rwhp.

Me too.

I've seen them for $12,999. They're $14,195 from Scoggin Dickey now.

None around here either.....you use to cry when I said **** about e85. All gas gets pumped. But we all know what pump gas means. No reason to bullshit it.

Anything ls you could bolt that blower on would make 700 I guess. Just need the proper brackets for the application. You bought a tuner kit right?? There usually a little cheaper. Most blower kits are over $6000.
If you pay 6k for a paxton your getting ripped off. As above you can pick up a full kit with lund custom tune for about 5500, and full paxton kit with tune for 4500.

And just like Coyote engine. If you look around you can find new engine for 5700, look wrong place and they will charge you 8k.

Same for boss engine. Can be had for 8600. Wrong place 12k. Can get its short block for 3200.
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As far as E85 ya I consider it pump gas. Just like 93. But it can't be had everywhere. That's what kept me off it. Hell you can't get 93 everywhere.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
If you pay 6k for a paxton your getting ripped off. As above you can pick up a full kit with lund custom tune for about 5500, and full paxton kit with tune for 4500.

And just like Coyote engine. If you look around you can find new engine for 5700, look wrong place and they will charge you 8k.

Same for boss engine. Can be had for 8600. Wrong place 12k. Can get its short block for 3200.
That's how I ended up with the ls6 . Dealer wanted $4800(which wasn't a bad price) for a ls1 in early 2002. I found a group buy on the ls6 for $5200.
Originally Posted by ohioborn80
As far as E85 ya I consider it pump gas. Just like 93. But it can't be had everywhere. That's what kept me off it. Hell you can't get 93 everywhere.
But this is why e85 considered not pump gas and most list it when they run it, it is a mod unless your car came with e85 capability. If it's just like 93 then go put it in your car and don't change a thing. 93 is widely available other than in higher elevation area's. Some high elevation area's you can only get 89.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
I will find the links. I know of 3 that have made 500-550whp n/a. Full bolt ons, ported heads, cams, drive shaft etc.
Still waiting for these links....
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Originally Posted by WSsick
Still waiting for these links....
looks like there might even be more in it
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Originally Posted by WSsick
Still waiting for these links....
I posted some...and I'm at work...looking for one a Guy did h/c Max effort for road racing. He posted it on svt. But I'm banned there. It made 550ish.
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Originally Posted by WSsick
Still waiting for these links....

This was the first one to do it. Stage 1 setup. He now has stage 2s which are slightly more aggressive cams and a more aggressive port. If you see a Coyote built by JPC.... its going to make power and its going to back it up. The guy knows what hes doing.

JPC with 500whp - low 10s

American muscle with 500whp - high 11s.

People can claim generous dyno all they want on that subject. His cars back it up at the track.



This is the stage 2 setup but also on a 318ci motor. Id imagine that same top end on a stock 302 would make in the 525-530whp area.
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I can believe it with full builds. They should get there since they make well over 400whp with bolt-ons.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I can believe it with full builds. They should get there since they make well over 400whp with bolt-ons.
Yep, and jpc saiys the race car they built made 500whp with just bolt ons and race gas and driveshaft etc.

Down side is its to expensive to build n/a setups. Its almost 6000 just in parts.


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