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Old 02-01-2013, 09:27 AM
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I agree. And I even on band wagon hard. Seeing all the 5.0's go low-mid 10's blown and even 9's. 10's was easy. Mid 10's wasn't to hard. But now I've ran into a wall. My old tuner took me about as far as he could with some help from another tuner. They just don't have shifts down on the automatics. My tranny shifts good. But some guys are running a little quicker cause of better tranny tuning.
Who did you have tune it?
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Where is this car, cause I have never seen one do it. If it was that easy people wouldn't be doing blower swaps to get 700+.
Vmp made 816 with some dookie comp 2s and rg. Still had some room to grow with a 15% lower.
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Originally Posted by automach1
Vmp made 816 with some dookie comp 2s and rg. Still had some room to grow with a 15% lower.
Link? Lets see proof.
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Originally Posted by Demon 383
Who did you have tune it?
Ctp in TX. They great things with the manuals, GT500 's, and 10 prior Mustangs auto and manual. But still learning on the 2011+ auto. The auto has a lot of crap to change. Few tuners has said has over 80 tables to dial in. Plus hidden tables. We found a table called Engine oil temp that we had to change, it was set so wouldn't shift above 6850 originally. At first was like it not responding. Change that table and bam it started shifting above where we wanted at 7650.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Ctp in TX. They great things with the manuals, GT500 's, and 10 prior Mustangs auto and manual. But still learning on the 2011+ auto. The auto has a lot of crap to change. Few tuners has said has over 80 tables to dial in. Plus hidden tables. We found a table called Engine oil temp that we had to change, it was set so wouldn't shift above 6850 originally. At first was like it not responding. Change that table and bam it started shifting above where we wanted at 7650.
Yes there is a good deal of tuning required for the A6, you just gotta find the right person to do it correctly. There is a shop that I work with from time to time down here in Sacramento that does good work on those. Hey at least you weren't like me and have a trans (manual) take a crap on you in less than 5500 miles. Built TR6060 FTW!
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Originally Posted by Demon 383
Yes there is a good deal of tuning required for the A6, you just gotta find the right person to do it correctly. There is a shop that I work with from time to time down here in Sacramento that does good work on those. Hey at least you weren't like me and have a trans (manual) take a crap on you in less than 5500 miles. Built TR6060 FTW!
I went threw to manual trans in my 2011. That's why got rid of it
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Originally Posted by automach1
Vmp made 816 with some dookie comp 2s and rg. Still had some room to grow with a 15% lower.
Here is your one making 816WHP. And its not a Eaton blower. Its VMP's TVS blower which is same setup on a the 13 GT500. Ford used his design. Again your full of ****. And it only ran a 10.83@133. Very sorry ET and Trap for 816whp. And no word of Fuel used so betting its Racefuel or E85. This blower is not going to make 800whp with out cams etc as you would like people to belive. I know for a fact. My buddy has this blower on his 2012 GT500 with CJ TB, BIG AIR Cold air, Injectors, driveshaft, off road x pipe. He made 702whp on 93. So your looking at 15k minimum to get to 800whp with everything your going to need and installed tuned etc. LOL. Good luck it will be least 20 years till you make that. And yes you made osund like you going to with the eaton blower. Just like you tried make sound like only reason fell back to the TVS 5.0 was cause you hit brakes.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Here is your one making 816WHP. And its not a Eaton blower. Its VMP's TVS blower which is same setup on a the 13 GT500. Ford used his design. Again your full of ****. And it only ran a 10.83@133. Very sorry ET and Trap for 816whp. And no word of Fuel used so betting its Racefuel or E85. This blower is not going to make 800whp with out cams etc as you would like people to belive. I know for a fact. My buddy has this blower on his 2012 GT500 with CJ TB, BIG AIR Cold air, Injectors, driveshaft, off road x pipe. He made 702whp on 93. So your looking at 15k minimum to get to 800whp with everything your going to need and installed tuned etc. LOL. Good luck it will be least 20 years till you make that. And yes you made osund like you going to with the eaton blower. Just like you tried make sound like only reason fell back to the TVS 5.0 was cause you hit brakes.
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Wrong so dumb. I posted proof and like hiho you make excuses. I said a 5.4 made 800+ with the tvs 2.3 and to prove me correct you just posted the link. So you think It is easy to get a tvs 2300 ls1 2 or 3 in the 800s think again. I even told you it had rg before you went on a dumb rant about how it may have it. With better cams and a 15 lower this car would make even more power with the tvs. Oh and I did not say a thing about a eaton making over 700 much less over 800 lol good try buddy oh and lol at 15k for a gt500 too make this power. Hell the tvs can be had for around 2500 cams 1500 including springs that is the majority of the cost.
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Wrong so dumb. I posted proof and like hiho you make excuses. I said a 5.4 made 800+ with the tvs 2.3 and to prove me correct you just posted the link. So you think It is easy to get a tvs 2300 ls1 2 or 3 in the 800s think again. I even told you it had rg before you went on a dumb rant about how it may have it. With better cams and a 15 lower this car would make even more power with the tvs. Oh and I did not say a thing about a eaton making over 700 much less over 800 lol good try buddy oh and lol at 15k for a gt500 too make this power. Hell the tvs can be had for around 2500 cams 1500 including springs that is the majority of the cost.
Actually we was talking ported blower, tand u said vmp made 816. You didn't say a tvs. You didn't say crap till I said a 4.0l Whipple.

And no its not majority of coat. Labor alone will be majority. The good shops charge 2000-2500 for labor for cams, plus you need full exhaust 1700-2000, injectors most using least id1000's which cost 1000, pulleys, belt, lower pulley, tensioner cs stock will not hhold. Many found that out with belt slip, CJ TB, cold air, tuning, bigs/little's. Cs the heavy stock rims will rob power, do I need to go on. And vmp is like every shop. They don't like to claim they used race fuel to make there big power.
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Originally Posted by Demon 383
Yes there is a good deal of tuning required for the A6, you just gotta find the right person to do it correctly. There is a shop that I work with from time to time down here in Sacramento that does good work on those. Hey at least you weren't like me and have a trans (manual) take a crap on you in less than 5500 miles. Built TR6060 FTW!
Shop you talking of is it AED?
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Originally Posted by automach1
I thought you said it was making 660-680?
I made 713whp in drag form, posted sheet before, dyno vids, it made 682whp with my heavy 20's on it.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Actually we was talking ported blower, tand u said vmp made 816. You didn't say a tvs. You didn't say crap till I said a 4.0l Whipple.

And no its not majority of coat. Labor alone will be majority. The good shops charge 2000-2500 for labor for cams, plus you need full exhaust 1700-2000, injectors most using least id1000's which cost 1000, pulleys, belt, lower pulley, tensioner cs stock will not hhold. Many found that out with belt slip, CJ TB, cold air, tuning, bigs/little's. Cs the heavy stock rims will rob power, do I need to go on. And vmp is like every shop. They don't like to claim they used race fuel to make there big power.
Go read it again tvs2300 was brought up and that's when I mentioned 800 with the 5.4. That's not including labor. Regardless gt500 is one of the best cars out for bang for your buck hp and you can dd 750 on a stock shortblock. Ids are nice but you coud use 80s for half the price. They did claim rg for the last time.
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Go read it again tvs2300 was brought up and that's when I mentioned 800 with the 5.4. That's not including labor. Regardless gt500 is one of the best cars out for bang for your buck hp and you can dd 750 on a stock shortblock. Ids are nice but you coud use 80s for half the price. They did claim rg for the last time.
So RG to get816whp. SO your going to drive around on RG 24/7. Lets be real. So on 93 its going to make a little over 700whp. And 80lb injectors are half assing it and any real builder/tuner will tell you that. They don't like tuning with the new ECU's. Only one shopp is still really using them for 2011+ cars and thats BBR. And yet you don't see none of their dyno queens any thing great.

And no the GT500 isn't one of the best bang for the buck actually. Specially new. 60-70k for 600whp when 5.0's and SS's are doing that for 20-25k less and out run the GT500. If you wnat to buy used and 4-5yrs old sure why not. But I am not buying crap that old for me. My son sure. Not me. Less I am buying a Fox for an all out drag car.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
So RG to get816whp. SO your going to drive around on RG 24/7. Lets be real. So on 93 its going to make a little over 700whp. And 80lb injectors are half assing it and any real builder/tuner will tell you that. They don't like tuning with the new ECU's. Only one shopp is still really using them for 2011+ cars and thats BBR. And yet you don't see none of their dyno queens any thing great.

And no the GT500 isn't one of the best bang for the buck actually. Specially new. 60-70k for 600whp when 5.0's and SS's are doing that for 20-25k less and out run the GT500. If you wnat to buy used and 4-5yrs old sure why not. But I am not buying crap that old for me. My son sure. Not me. Less I am buying a Fox for an all out drag car.
No that setup on pump would make well into the 700s. 80s will get the job done for those looking too save money. I was talking about the older 500s and the price to bolton power not buying the car. If that was the case foxbody roller is the obvious way to go.

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No that setup on pump would make well into the 700s. 80s will get the job done for those looking too save money. I was talking about the older 500s and the price to bolton power not buying the car. If that was the case foxbody roller is the obvious way to go.
Well into the 700's? What you think they picked up 10whp running race gas. Hell no they most likely picked up least 60-70whp on race gas alone. So 700-740 on 93.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Shop you talking of is it AED?
Correct. Shaun is my boy. He tuned this Mustang and my last one. Great work!
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Correct. Shaun is my boy. He tuned this Mustang and my last one. Great work!
I figured was him. See a lot of stuff from him and some my firends on the forums. LOL. But does look like he is doing some great tunes. I might have to hit him up.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Well into the 700's? What you think they picked up 10whp running race gas. Hell no they most likely picked up least 60-70whp on race gas alone. So 700-740 on 93.
740 is getting well into the 7s I imagime this setup on 93 pump would make 740+. So like I said well into the 700s
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Originally Posted by automach1
740 is getting well into the 7s I imagime this setup on 93 pump would make 740+. So like I said well into the 700s
740 is being generous.

and also it made 816whp and ran 10.8@133 not impressive at all.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
740 is being generous.

and also it made 816whp and ran 10.8@133 not impressive at all.
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