Tvs 5.0 vs Vortech 5.0 vs Bolton gt500
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Thats like saying ported heads is a bolt on. Or a blower swap is a bolt on. Come on man.
And a quick search I found other GT500's full bolt ons making 550-590whp. None with ported blowers yet they said full bolt ons.
And SAE, and not a stingy dyno. Same one I made 713whp on.
Just not all make it look like they have best numbers, and then there car can't back it up. Kinda like you claiming 540whp. Post up a dyn sheet for that. And showing its you. Cause I am not buying it.
And a quick search I found other GT500's full bolt ons making 550-590whp. None with ported blowers yet they said full bolt ons.
And SAE, and not a stingy dyno. Same one I made 713whp on.
Just not all make it look like they have best numbers, and then there car can't back it up. Kinda like you claiming 540whp. Post up a dyn sheet for that. And showing its you. Cause I am not buying it.
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573 not low 600's again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK69y...layer_embedded
Like said not all dyno' are happy and tell you that you made super great power that leaves you getting spanked by a lower powered car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK69y...layer_embedded
Like said not all dyno' are happy and tell you that you made super great power that leaves you getting spanked by a lower powered car
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I just posted a bunch that none made 600whp with bolt ons. And STD will read higher by about 4%. And that why you always see poeple coose it over SAE. When talking more power that 4% grows in power. There was just a thread on SVT about it. SAE vs STD was almost 50whp difference. On same car same pull.
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correction factors:
"SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers), USA. Power is corrected to reference conditions of 29.23 InHg (99 kPa) of dry air and 77 F (25°C). This SAE standard requires a correction for friction torque. Friction torque can be determined by measurements on special motoring dynamometers (which is only practical in research environments) or can be estimated. When estimates must be used, the SAE standard uses a default Mechanical Efficiency (ME) value of 85%. This is approximately correct at peak torque but not at other engine operating speeds. Some dynamometer systems use the SAE correction factor for atmospheric conditions but do not take mechanical efficiency into consideration at all (i.e. they assume a ME of 100%).
STD or STP. Another power correction standard determined by the SAE. This standard has been stable for a long time and is widely used in the performance industry. Power is corrected to reference conditions of 29.92 InHg (103.3 kPa) of dry air and 60 F (15.5°C). Because the reference conditions include higher pressure and cooler air than the SAE standard, these corrected power numbers will always be about 4 % higher than the SAE power numbers. Friction torque is handled in the same way as in the SAE standard."
Same as every where says. 4%
"SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers), USA. Power is corrected to reference conditions of 29.23 InHg (99 kPa) of dry air and 77 F (25°C). This SAE standard requires a correction for friction torque. Friction torque can be determined by measurements on special motoring dynamometers (which is only practical in research environments) or can be estimated. When estimates must be used, the SAE standard uses a default Mechanical Efficiency (ME) value of 85%. This is approximately correct at peak torque but not at other engine operating speeds. Some dynamometer systems use the SAE correction factor for atmospheric conditions but do not take mechanical efficiency into consideration at all (i.e. they assume a ME of 100%).
STD or STP. Another power correction standard determined by the SAE. This standard has been stable for a long time and is widely used in the performance industry. Power is corrected to reference conditions of 29.92 InHg (103.3 kPa) of dry air and 60 F (15.5°C). Because the reference conditions include higher pressure and cooler air than the SAE standard, these corrected power numbers will always be about 4 % higher than the SAE power numbers. Friction torque is handled in the same way as in the SAE standard."
Same as every where says. 4%
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They are not full bolton cars and yes a stock ported blower car is still a bolton car.
608sae with stock exhaust. I can post more if you would like
https://vmptuning.com/forum/showthread.php?t=989
608sae with stock exhaust. I can post more if you would like
https://vmptuning.com/forum/showthread.php?t=989
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They are not full bolton cars and yes a stock ported blower car is still a bolton car.
608sae with stock exhaust. I can post more if you would like
https://vmptuning.com/forum/showthread.php?t=989
608sae with stock exhaust. I can post more if you would like
https://vmptuning.com/forum/showthread.php?t=989
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Wrong you are a idiot if you think porting a stock blower is not a bolton but buying a aftermarket intake manifold is. Exactly your opinion.
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The rule of bolt on's, is the engine can't be opened up. Have never heard of atmosphere stipulations put on it.
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It gets really gray then. Kinda like changing your cam timing electronically in a vvt engine. I think it's out of the realm of bolt-ons a little.....but technology is wonderful and it looks like we're gonna have to get used to it.