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Old 04-17-2004, 08:15 PM
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So todays weather was awesome.. decided to cruise around and look for a race. I saw 3 worthy opponents 03 Cobra, Corvette Z06, and a Viper RT10 (viper looked like it was fixed up). All of them were on the other side of the street/highway and I tried to chase them all but unfortunately I couldnt find them.

So I drive back home and see a Suzuki GSXR 1000. It looked CLEAN and it was one of the newer models. So I ask him if he wants to race and he asks "how much you got?" I said I race just for fun. He follows me to the highway and we do a second gear roll (OF COURSE I turned the bottle on and purged it a bit thinking I scared his ***. HAH! yeah Right.)

Up to date the kills I made on spray were:
-2002 Z06: put 4 car lengths on him from 2nd gear roll to mid 4th (this same owner beat a yamaha R1 from a roll 2nd-4th. He is also my roommate and best friend).

-2004 Porsche 911 turbo: put 4 car lengths on him from a high 2nd gear roll to high 4th. Also raced this guy from a dead stop and beat him on green. The 02 Z06 owner also raced this guy and beat him by a car length and a half from a 2nd gear roll.

So I thought racing a suzuki 1000 should be a good run. I mean it couldnt be THAT much faster than an R1 right? I mean if R1s couldnt even beat Z06s from a roll, what are the chances of the suzuki 1000 beating me? Not much really right?

We race from roll again the usual 2nd to 4th gear and he WALKS AWAY. WTF? I race him again 2nd to 4th and he puts about 3 cars on me by the time I BARELY hit 4th! DAMN! He .

I ask him to pull over and have a chat. The owners seemed to be a cool guy. Only it turns out that the son of a gun has a cam in his bike! makes me kinda wish I had a 150 shot instead of the 100 shot

Yup. No matter how fast you go theres always someone faster out there.

I wonder what this guy could do to R1s!

Overall. Good run. Im glad I raced him. I also asked him if he thinks I could beat stock gsxr 1000s and he said he doesnt think so? . He must not know how fast his bike is! but then... I dont know.. maybe ill see those one day and find out.. but I doubt I wont be faster than he is by then

Gotta get heads! Gotta get heads!


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Old 04-17-2004, 09:38 PM
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Like you said..... There is always someone faster.
Nice death !!
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Old 04-17-2004, 10:20 PM
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I never have understood why people wanna race bikes, they're so damn fast. If I had a bike wanna race me I'd tell him to get lost and go race another bike. A bike and a car racing just doesn't seem right to me, we just don't compare.

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Up until the latest R1, the Gixxer was quite a bit faster. High 9s compared to low-mid 10s for the R1. I still think the R1 should have been able to beat pretty much anything on the street. Even a decent rider should be able to pull mid 11s at worst.
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A Z06 wouldn't have a chance with a R1, without some serious mods.
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to my suprise but i did have a chance.. the guy saw a car trying to race him and he thought it'll be a piece of cake and tried to pop a standing wheelie... well he turned out to be wrong.. i raced a 750 gixxer too and he tried to do the same thing but couldnt get the wheelie up right.. and he got beat.. he even gave me a thumbs up

a street roll(especially from a second gear) is not comparable to drag times... so dont confused urself with those..
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I walked a GSXR 1000 with my Z06, but she aint quite stock. The bike owner told me it had 160rwhp, I really do not know if that is alot for this bike or not? Needless to say he was a bit suprised.
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Originally Posted by cantdrv65
I walked a GSXR 1000 with my Z06, but she aint quite stock. The bike owner told me it had 160rwhp, I really do not know if that is alot for this bike or not? Needless to say he was a bit suprised.
What the hell do you have to walk a 1000? your car must have some *****.
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I'm suprised you held that close.

Those bikes have traps in the 140 mph range.

Even if he was stock you didn't have a chance
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Originally Posted by AmMscl
A Z06 wouldn't have a chance with a R1, without some serious mods.


R1's are fast as hell.
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Nice kills and deathy man. but i am curious to the mods of that z06. i have a feeling he is going to say 427 or something. he does live in TEXAS you know!!!
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My girlfriend raced a TL1000 from a stop and a roll...beat him both times in my car (the bike had a shitty rider)...

I was set up with an older sport bike, looked like an old iron bike at first...something like a 1990 1000, it had a big header, muzzy pipe, strapped front, sticky tire....oops.

I raced him at 30 psi in the rear tires, and got spanked by about 4 cars, same on a roll....he was a god rider

I kind of thought it was just some old iron bike at first, boy was I wrong.... the owner said it runs mid 10's at the locak track...

I REALLY need to get my juice on for these big bikes...

I raced a guy on the way back from that race, a 04 CBR600RR (yellow) from a roll and beat him....that rider sucked as well, couldnt pull even with me from a roll...this guy raced me last year in an older YZF600, and I spanked him from a stop and roll....with bikes it takes a god rider to come CLOSE to posted times...I think that CBR600RR runs 10.6 in the magazines, but couldnt catch up to a mid 11 second car with a shitty rider!!

My girl also killed an 04 cobra by many car lengths from a stop, and she had to get out of it twice because of wheel spin.
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TL1000's are v-twins, and really aren't that fast. I was looking at a '98 before I got my bike, and they only have like 102 hp. Plus with the v-twin they are pretty heavy. They look pretty sweet, though. BTW-nice death and I'm curious to see how you'll fare with the 150 shot!
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If u raced a new r1 you wouldn't be so lucky. 158rwhp stock
nice kills though and death
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Thanks for the responses guys.. to be quite honest I dont know that much about bikes as far as what they can do from a roll. So I figured I'd try it anyway.

Originally Posted by pdd
If u raced a new r1 you wouldn't be so lucky. 158rwhp stock
nice kills though and death
I think we need to keep the new R1s out of this
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I would change this title to:

DONT RACE SPORT BIKES IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR YOU

Did anyone catch the video of the supercharged viper being slaughtered by a whole bunch of busas (stock and otherwise)? He supposedly had 900 RWHP too.

The older 600's go down to a lightly modded LS1 from a roll, but the new ones are bad ***. Don't bother with the newer bikes unless you have at least 500 at the wheels.
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Originally Posted by z98
I would change this title to:

DONT RACE SPORT BIKES IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR YOU

Did anyone catch the video of the supercharged viper being slaughtered by a whole bunch of busas (stock and otherwise)? He supposedly had 900 RWHP too.
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Yes!!! I've seen it. One of the most awesome vids ever. Your talking about the one with the black viper right? There was one busa who I think was spraying and just literally "FLEW" away.
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I know from experience that Busa's are incredibly fast and if you hit it too hard it might be real hard to hold on
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I can't believe you guys are underestimating bikes by so much.

A Z06 will not beat an R1 with a decent driver. No way in hell. R1s are crazy fast.

Most bikes are fast, but the 1000+s are pure insanity. I want an R1 so bad.
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you gotta have some ***** to hit the spray on a 'busa, that's for sure.



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