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Old 02-17-2013, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by evangto87


And yes bias plys will rob you of some mph on the back half of the track. I used this analogy in another thread. But picture peddling a bicycle with a flat rear tire. Takes a lot more energy to get to the same speed.
I wonder how much difference there is in the bias vs radial @ 20psi? Last time out I was running 21 or 22. But I try to make mine roll easy. Alot of drag racers do all they can to turn power into heat. It seems they forget drag racing is a acceleration race so they all wanna do alot of gear and alot of tire. When dealing with minimal power that is a killer.
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120 mph+ is very doable for a well setup cam only setup. Not COMMON but very doable, and it would not be done with a small cam.

****, think of it like this, if many M6 cars have been able to go 115mph+ with bolt ons at 340-360 whp, why wouldn't it go 5mph faster with 50-60 extra whp?


If notch went 116 mph on stock headers, no tune and not even a fast intake. Why wouldn't a max effort cam only setup go 120mph lol. If notch were to get LT's and tune he'd probably pick 1-2mph. Keep in mind notch is still Full interior with a/c, p/s etc... His car is no cookie cutter though.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I wonder how much difference there is in the bias vs radial @ 20psi? Last time out I was running 21 or 22. But I try to make mine roll easy. Alot of drag racers do all they can to turn power into heat. It seems they forget drag racing is a acceleration race so they all wanna do alot of gear and alot of tire. When dealing with minimal power that is a killer.
I picked lost 2-3mph on the back half with my GTO going from 30psi to 8psi in my street tires. Tire starts getting really flat under 20psi. I ran the Boss at 15psi. Get real noticable at the 1000ft mark
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Originally Posted by adamantium
120 mph+ is very doable for a well setup cam only setup. Not COMMON but very doable, and it would not be done with a small cam.

****, think of it like this, if many M6 cars have been able to go 115mph+ with bolt ons at 340-360 whp, why wouldn't it go 5mph faster with 50-60 extra whp?


If notch went 116 mph on stock headers, no tune and not even a fast intake. Why wouldn't a max effort cam only setup go 120mph lol. If notch were to get LT's and tune he'd probably pick 1-2mph. Keep in mind notch is still Full interior with a/c, p/s etc... His car is no cookie cutter though.
While I agree.... i think its only fair that we say the same about the new 5.0s. If some run 125... why cant all of them if done right? Thats the same logic applied to the f bodies no?
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Originally Posted by evangto87
While I agree.... i think its only fair that we say the same about the new 5.0s. If some run 125... why cant all of them if done right? Thats the same logic applied to the f bodies no?
Who said anything about a 5.0 NOT being able to trap 125? I agree though if one person was able to do it who says someone else can't replicate it. Its not like the 5.0 is lacking in the power department. With the right weight and power i definitely see it happening.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
cam only and 120 is mediocre at best.
Mediocre is definitely not a good word choice. I think 99% of the people on this thread would be happy with a 120mph trap cam/bolt-on only LS1
Originally Posted by evangto87


And yes bias plys will rob you of some mph on the back half of the track. I used this analogy in another thread. But picture peddling a bicycle with a flat rear tire. Takes a lot more energy to get to the same speed.
I definitely hear bias ply robs you of MPH up top, but I know the reason a lot of guys use them around here is because they are easier on their factory 10-bolt.
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Originally Posted by adamantium
Who said anything about a 5.0 NOT being able to trap 125? I agree though if one person was able to do it who says someone else can't replicate it. Its not like the 5.0 is lacking in the power department. With the right weight and power i definitely see it happening.
almost everyone on here lol
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Originally Posted by Knight-Z06
id wait for the new Ls7 powered camaro's , they will be quite the equilizer
and quite expensive.
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Originally Posted by GXPPOWER
and quite expensive.
Yeah... I'm curious to see where the price point will be at considering the loaded 1LE is ~$42k

They would be getting ahead of themselves if they didn't price it right around the Boss 302 with performance that doesn't exceed the Boss's
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Originally Posted by adamantium
Who said anything about a 5.0 NOT being able to trap 125? I agree though if one person was able to do it who says someone else can't replicate it. Its not like the 5.0 is lacking in the power department. With the right weight and power i definitely see it happening.
x2. .. It's a very capable engine/car combo. There are several people on here that blow them completely out of proportion....I think we know who they are
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Mediocre is definitely not a good word choice. I think 99% of the people on this thread would be happy with a 120mph trap cam/bolt-on only LS1
To be honest Knowing what I know I would be disappointed if my bolt-on ls1 did'nt trap 120 now. I'm still planning on the ls6 trapping more....lol
Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Yeah... I'm curious to see where the price point will be at considering the loaded 1LE is ~$42k

They would be getting ahead of themselves if they didn't price it right around the Boss 302 with performance that doesn't exceed the Boss's
I'm pretty sure the 1LE has already exceeded Boss territory. A ls7 in the Camaro would drive a spike right threw the heart of everything Ford. The gt500 would still out 1/4 it but my god the *** whopping it would take on a road coarse. A 1LE ls7 would be faster than a ZL1 on a road coarse.....maybe even in the 1/4.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
x2. .. It's a very capable engine/car combo. There are several people on here that blow them completely out of proportion....I think we know who they are
Yeah and i think he was the same guy that said that a wideband reads timing. lulz
Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I'm pretty sure the 1LE has already exceeded Boss territory. A ls7 in the Camaro would drive a spike right threw the heart of everything Ford. The gt500 would still out 1/4 it but my god the *** whopping it would take on a road coarse. A 1LE ls7 would be faster than a ZL1 on a road coarse.....maybe even in the 1/4.
Which IMO i think its a myth, its writen in paper but i personally don't see it happening. GM isn't the type of company to offer more for less when they already have a higher model camaro that is more expensive and offers it, if it IS released it would cost more than the ZL1 thats for sure, or atleast be in the same ball park.
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Another amazing thread.
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from what I heard about the LS7 Camaro (Z28..supposedly) Its going to be pretty much a barebones car with very limited features. Its features will be comparable to the old Vipers or a streetable COPO Camaro with an LS7. Expected to be somewhere around $48k-$52K.
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
Another amazing thread.
Yea!!!...especially with all your awesome input and knowledge
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
To be honest Knowing what I know I would be disappointed if my bolt-on ls1 did'nt trap 120 now. I'm still planning on the ls6 trapping more....lol
Seeing as how there have only been 2 bolt-on LS1s trapping >120 that I know of on here, I'd say that is pushing the terms of reality.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...1-74-bump.html

I would personally be happy with a cam-only LS1 Fbody trapping 120mph. Like I said, 99% of people in here would be.

There are too many variables that come into play to call a 120mph trap out of a cam-only Fbody "mediocre at best".
Originally Posted by adamantium
Which IMO i think its a myth, its writen in paper but i personally don't see it happening. GM isn't the type of company to offer more for less when they already have a higher model camaro that is more expensive and offers it, if it IS released it would cost more than the ZL1 thats for sure, or atleast be in the same ball park.
Yeah, I'm curious to see what the pricing is on it.
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from what I heard about the LS7 Camaro (Z28..supposedly) Its going to be pretty much a barebones car with very limited features. Its features will be comparable to the old Vipers or a streetable COPO Camaro with an LS7. Expected to be somewhere around $48k-$52K.
I personally would have such a hard time justifying spending ~$50k on a Camaro
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Originally Posted by jarheadtex
damn.. I should get a lid for mine....
i'm stuck on ls1 talk! Meant CAI, not sure brand but it did require canned tune. he is crying about voiding warranty tho
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While I think the LS7 is a bad *** option, just wonder where it will fit in with the ZL1.
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Nice runs,the 5.0s are killer rides,your car runs good op,those times are very impressive to me
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Yea!!!...especially with all your awesome input and knowledge
I know your a complete idiot. Thats all i need to know. Bolt on Fbody going 120? Your seriously amazing....im calling Texas Speed for you right now....


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