2000 Cammed SS vs 2012 5.0 (5.0's are beast)
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Have you seen the vid of me goin 11.1 @ 126.x? Do you believe that?
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How is it backwards????????????Because you said so???? lmfao. I have managed to make the 10bolt live threw 1.7 60's and 130+mph traps with a stick. That's not backwards, that's a accomplishment....lol It just don't want any more than that when I try to give it to it.
Have you seen the vid of me goin 11.1 @ 126.x? Do you believe that?
Have you seen the vid of me goin 11.1 @ 126.x? Do you believe that?
Didn't you say the car weighs 3000-3100 dry? What's the Raceweight?
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F-body, vette ....it don't really matter. I'm not saying anyone can do it. Clearly they can't. But I can, and that is all that really matters to me.
We will find out what it will do on a fab 9 soon enough.
I really have not had much for rearend problems until this axle breaking issue. I did break 2 sets of 4.10's but that is one reason why I tell people 4.10's suck for these cars. The 3.90's have been solid...not even a whimper out of them. Will they take a 6k 2step dump on a slick....probably not.
What do you think a 9" is gonna take 10mph out of traps??? Thinking like that would get you ran out of tech forums.
Do you think the stock tq arm drives my mph up too?
I'll tell ya the difference between you and I. I can get this ls6 to trap 130+.....you had to buy a ZR1 to do it![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
With that said I would rather have the ZR1....lol
As far as the ls6 swap with a cam car goes. Clearly that car is under performing. W/o knowing all details it's hard to say. But I would rather have a stock cam with a spot on tune than a cam and the tune be off any day. I'm sure anyone on a "tech" forum would agree. And I think there are alot of cam cars out there with the tunes off and even more with there combo's lacking.
My car is a street car .....dd actually. I would rather have a high trapping street car vs a awesome 60' drag car. Now at some point I will find a happy medium between them. When I do you will call more bs.![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
I reduced the weight of it to help ALL aspects of performance w/o compromising it's dd ability. That also helps the 10bolt live. You for instance already said a 9" would be the first thing you have done. Your in the same boat as lots of others....thinking right inside that box.
We will find out what it will do on a fab 9 soon enough.
I really have not had much for rearend problems until this axle breaking issue. I did break 2 sets of 4.10's but that is one reason why I tell people 4.10's suck for these cars. The 3.90's have been solid...not even a whimper out of them. Will they take a 6k 2step dump on a slick....probably not.
What do you think a 9" is gonna take 10mph out of traps??? Thinking like that would get you ran out of tech forums.
Do you think the stock tq arm drives my mph up too?
I'll tell ya the difference between you and I. I can get this ls6 to trap 130+.....you had to buy a ZR1 to do it
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With that said I would rather have the ZR1....lol
As far as the ls6 swap with a cam car goes. Clearly that car is under performing. W/o knowing all details it's hard to say. But I would rather have a stock cam with a spot on tune than a cam and the tune be off any day. I'm sure anyone on a "tech" forum would agree. And I think there are alot of cam cars out there with the tunes off and even more with there combo's lacking.
My car is a street car .....dd actually. I would rather have a high trapping street car vs a awesome 60' drag car. Now at some point I will find a happy medium between them. When I do you will call more bs.
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I reduced the weight of it to help ALL aspects of performance w/o compromising it's dd ability. That also helps the 10bolt live. You for instance already said a 9" would be the first thing you have done. Your in the same boat as lots of others....thinking right inside that box.
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But on a diff not, its not inside the box getting a rear on an fbody. Sure some make it just fine with 400hp but the inevitable WILL happen. Id rather not spen the $500 from my 1.5hour drive to track to get it to a local shop. Its a chance many of of us wont take.
Its playing with fire to throw cams at them and keep the stock rear....sure, it will hold up. Mine held cam launches for 2 seasons....theeeeeeeeen she gave out on the freakin way home driving from work. Very random
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Its not like all the bolt on f-bodys that are 118+ have a different platform then the ones that don't trap 118+.
Do all f-bodys trap that? No. Can they? Yes. Now it depends on the owner if he's willing to go that route or not.
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Your doin a real good job when both sides call bs
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I'll add this. If one person gets to 120(just use it as a good round #) and another don't. If their object is to make speed threw modding...then yes the second person did something wrong. Although everyones results will very.
You would love my slobalt...traps 109 but 60s 2.3 ![Icon Lol](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies2/icon_lol.gif)
But on a diff not, its not inside the box getting a rear on an fbody. Sure some make it just fine with 400hp but the inevitable WILL happen. Id rather not spen the $500 from my 1.5hour drive to track to get it to a local shop. Its a chance many of of us wont take.
Its playing with fire to throw cams at them and keep the stock rear....sure, it will hold up. Mine held cam launches for 2 seasons....theeeeeeeeen she gave out on the freakin way home driving from work. Very random
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But on a diff not, its not inside the box getting a rear on an fbody. Sure some make it just fine with 400hp but the inevitable WILL happen. Id rather not spen the $500 from my 1.5hour drive to track to get it to a local shop. Its a chance many of of us wont take.
Its playing with fire to throw cams at them and keep the stock rear....sure, it will hold up. Mine held cam launches for 2 seasons....theeeeeeeeen she gave out on the freakin way home driving from work. Very random
As far as I can tell with a proper set-up and gear (not 4.10's) a 10 bolt holds up fine. Yes you have to be nice to it and have a little finesse......but not bad in my power range. Now you do not want to let it wheel hop, that is instant death.
Its not the norm because 90% of the people with our cars don't care for that. Everyone just adds a lid, LTS, an exhaust and just throws a cam in it or heads and an intake in a full weight car.
Its not like all the bolt on f-bodys that are 118+ have a different platform then the ones that don't trap 118+.
Do all f-bodys trap that? No. Can they? Yes. Now it depends on the owner if he's willing to go that route or not.
Its not like all the bolt on f-bodys that are 118+ have a different platform then the ones that don't trap 118+.
Do all f-bodys trap that? No. Can they? Yes. Now it depends on the owner if he's willing to go that route or not.
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What 133 trap??? It was 131. Depending on configuration the weight would be about 3150 ~ with me. But sometimes I run it with about 3/4 tank of gas to get some rear bias in it. So usually around 3200. Car it's self on low gas should be a little less than 3000 in drag form.
Your doin a real good job when both sides call bs![Winky](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_wink.gif)
Read adam's post.
I'll add this. If one person gets to 120(just use it as a good round #) and another don't. If their object is to make speed threw modding...then yes the second person did something wrong. Although everyones results will very.
Slow that 60' down to a 2.6 and pick up trap by 3mph then I will be impressed...lol
As far as I can tell with a proper set-up and gear (not 4.10's) a 10 bolt holds up fine. Yes you have to be nice to it and have a little finesse......but not bad in my power range. Now you do not want to let it wheel hop, that is instant death.
Atleast someone on here has a little common sense![Cheers!!](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_cheers.gif)
Not like the first time you've trolled....![The Jester](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_jest.gif)
Your doin a real good job when both sides call bs
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Read adam's post.
I'll add this. If one person gets to 120(just use it as a good round #) and another don't. If their object is to make speed threw modding...then yes the second person did something wrong. Although everyones results will very.
Slow that 60' down to a 2.6 and pick up trap by 3mph then I will be impressed...lol
As far as I can tell with a proper set-up and gear (not 4.10's) a 10 bolt holds up fine. Yes you have to be nice to it and have a little finesse......but not bad in my power range. Now you do not want to let it wheel hop, that is instant death.
Atleast someone on here has a little common sense
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How is it backwards????????????Because you said so???? lmfao. I have managed to make the 10bolt live threw 1.7 60's and 130+mph traps with a stick. That's not backwards, that's a accomplishment....lol It just don't want any more than that when I try to give it to it.
Have you seen the vid of me goin 11.1 @ 126.x? Do you believe that?
Have you seen the vid of me goin 11.1 @ 126.x? Do you believe that?
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My contribution? I am the OP. I posted this thread which started this shitfest.
I've owned my car since I was 16 years old back in 2003. I've been around the LS1 world since then and I've seen hundreds if not thousands of Ls1 fbodies run at the track not to mention the ones I've assisted building or have worked on myself. I know whats norm and what's not norm for these cars.
I know for a fact I am one of the better 6 speed drivers around.
I owned a 2005 GTO that I took to 12.79 @ 109 basically bone stock. I drove my Camaro to a 13.1 @ 107 in mid summer hot georgia air stock down to the filter.
My camaro runs fine for what it is. 131 Traps @ near full weight are simply impossible with 420rwhp in a Fbody. You guys are letting this man troll you for days and you keep biting. Somehow or another we are arguing about rear end strength now? Come on.
I've owned my car since I was 16 years old back in 2003. I've been around the LS1 world since then and I've seen hundreds if not thousands of Ls1 fbodies run at the track not to mention the ones I've assisted building or have worked on myself. I know whats norm and what's not norm for these cars.
I know for a fact I am one of the better 6 speed drivers around.
I owned a 2005 GTO that I took to 12.79 @ 109 basically bone stock. I drove my Camaro to a 13.1 @ 107 in mid summer hot georgia air stock down to the filter.
My camaro runs fine for what it is. 131 Traps @ near full weight are simply impossible with 420rwhp in a Fbody. You guys are letting this man troll you for days and you keep biting. Somehow or another we are arguing about rear end strength now? Come on.
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Oh, and here's that car. It belonged to 'T/ALT1' Post #18. 10.23@134 1.50 60', STOCK 10-bolt/3.42 gear
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Several others have did it as well. I'd have to dig tho since its been a minute.
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No vids. I've posted the sli[ps before.
How many m6 cars with a 10 bolt do you see goin 11.0's? Auto's do it....not really a big deal for them to do it.
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How would a auto go faster with a stronger rear??? It would probably launch the same if that was all it had. Were not talkin ysi 383's here Einstein.
I have a fab 9 for it, had it a while now. I have not put it in yet. I just got my abs conversion a couple weeks ago and since I bought the rear used I want to take it apart and check it out. All in due time. I get in no rush for it. I also know when it does go in I'll probably have to chase clunks and vibrations for a while. I have noticed some complain of the noise and I'm not looking forward to that.
Me too. May have been a ready made to get that comment.
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I have a fab 9 for it, had it a while now. I have not put it in yet. I just got my abs conversion a couple weeks ago and since I bought the rear used I want to take it apart and check it out. All in due time. I get in no rush for it. I also know when it does go in I'll probably have to chase clunks and vibrations for a while. I have noticed some complain of the noise and I'm not looking forward to that.
Me too. May have been a ready made to get that comment.
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My contribution? I am the OP. I posted this thread which started this shitfest.
I've owned my car since I was 16 years old back in 2003. I've been around the LS1 world since then and I've seen hundreds if not thousands of Ls1 fbodies run at the track not to mention the ones I've assisted building or have worked on myself. I know whats norm and what's not norm for these cars.
I know for a fact I am one of the better 6 speed drivers around.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNoYlB0aycU
I owned a 2005 GTO that I took to 12.79 @ 109 basically bone stock. I drove my Camaro to a 13.1 @ 107 in mid summer hot georgia air stock down to the filter.
My camaro runs fine for what it is. 131 Traps @ near full weight are simply impossible with 420rwhp in a Fbody. You guys are letting this man troll you for days and you keep biting. Somehow or another we are arguing about rear end strength now? Come on.
I've owned my car since I was 16 years old back in 2003. I've been around the LS1 world since then and I've seen hundreds if not thousands of Ls1 fbodies run at the track not to mention the ones I've assisted building or have worked on myself. I know whats norm and what's not norm for these cars.
I know for a fact I am one of the better 6 speed drivers around.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNoYlB0aycU
I owned a 2005 GTO that I took to 12.79 @ 109 basically bone stock. I drove my Camaro to a 13.1 @ 107 in mid summer hot georgia air stock down to the filter.
My camaro runs fine for what it is. 131 Traps @ near full weight are simply impossible with 420rwhp in a Fbody. You guys are letting this man troll you for days and you keep biting. Somehow or another we are arguing about rear end strength now? Come on.
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I don't take guys like him seriously, just have little fun with him.
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