2000 Cammed SS vs 2012 5.0 (5.0's are beast)
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Seeing as how there have only been 2 bolt-on LS1s trapping >120 that I know of on here, I'd say that is pushing the terms of reality.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...1-74-bump.html
I would personally be happy with a cam-only LS1 Fbody trapping 120mph. Like I said, 99% of people in here would be.
There are too many variables that come into play to call a 120mph trap out of a cam-only Fbody "mediocre at best".
Yeah, I'm curious to see what the pricing is on it.
I personally would have such a hard time justifying spending ~$50k on a Camaro
https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...1-74-bump.html
I would personally be happy with a cam-only LS1 Fbody trapping 120mph. Like I said, 99% of people in here would be.
There are too many variables that come into play to call a 120mph trap out of a cam-only Fbody "mediocre at best".
Yeah, I'm curious to see what the pricing is on it.
I personally would have such a hard time justifying spending ~$50k on a Camaro
Just do do the math for some of you guys. I only make about 60-70 hp more than a solid bolt-on ls1. So yea, a bolt-on ls1 would easily go over 120 in my car.
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Actually there are 4 on that list. More on the corvette list and 1 that went 124.
Thanks bud....tell them to pay me well.
Just do do the math for some of you guys. I only make about 60-70 hp more than a solid bolt-on ls1. So yea, a bolt-on ls1 would easily go over 120 in my car.
Thanks bud....tell them to pay me well.
Just do do the math for some of you guys. I only make about 60-70 hp more than a solid bolt-on ls1. So yea, a bolt-on ls1 would easily go over 120 in my car.
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I still call total B.S. on your claimed trap speeds until I see a track vid of your car doing it. It goes back to what I was saying to you yesterday, most guys making claims like the ones you throw around usually have a track vid to go along with those claims. I can see why you hang around here as opposed to the hardcore tech forums because they would probably laugh at majority of the things you say.
Hey man not everyone walks around with a camera crew in their pocket. Notch's girlfriend was recording that day but missed me and I broke another axle on the next pass. I've got plenty of slips I have posted and I hang around all over this site. I don't know of any more hard core ls sites out there, probably more hard core drag sites but I'm not a drag racer.
Guys have been calling bs since the ls6 has been in it.....nothing new there. It just keeps getting worse for them. Now that I'm not the only ls6 over 130....it's looking alot more real
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Some good reading on some nice bolt on cars...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...-29-119-a.html
Hio's nightmare:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...aps-130-a.html
I wish I went 120MPH cam only![Sad](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_sad.gif)
https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...gable-cam.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...-29-119-a.html
Hio's nightmare:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...aps-130-a.html
I wish I went 120MPH cam only
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...gable-cam.html
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Some good reading on some nice bolt on cars...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...-29-119-a.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...-29-119-a.html
Very impressive but far from your typical bolt-on LS1.
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Impressive, but you can sort of get an idea of what it takes to get there. This car literally has EVERY single "bolt-on" mod possible for a S/I car; 1-7/8 headers, Ported FAST 102, E85 Fuel, SD Tune, Big & Littles, 9" rear, etc etc. M6 car. OP said the run was at -650 Density Altitude, 45* F, and a 3,250# raceweight.
Very impressive but far from your typical bolt-on LS1.
I won't even touch that one, lol. Lots of speculation in that thread. I will say that car sounds a lot more realistic though considering it trapped 129mph with a 29xx# raceweight and a decent 60'.![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
LS6-swap with slightly more aggressive cam & supporting mods, and at 3420# raceweight only manages to trap 120. Must be a turd.![Rolleyes](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/rolleyes.gif)
Very impressive but far from your typical bolt-on LS1.
I won't even touch that one, lol. Lots of speculation in that thread. I will say that car sounds a lot more realistic though considering it trapped 129mph with a 29xx# raceweight and a decent 60'.
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LS6-swap with slightly more aggressive cam & supporting mods, and at 3420# raceweight only manages to trap 120. Must be a turd.
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On the ls1 m6 car. I see alot of t's that need crossed and i's the need dotted. He done a good job but not anything really great yet....on the right track though.
The c5 z06's only controversy was a few wanting to call bs. That car went 10.75.
The ls6 swap car should be faster. He woulda been better of with the stock cam and clearly left alot on the table.
With that said I have left some on the table too. But mostly in et.
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We were clearly talking about Fbodies. Case and point.
4 recorded on this website and the LS1 has been out for how many years now? I get that it is possible, but the way you are talking in rhetoric, you make it sound like anybody could do it.
If so, come out to Iowa and help me out when I pick up another toy
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Curious to see how your ET, trap, and dyno #s would be with a 9"
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You still haven't even put a decent rear end in your car. Where as me, the first thing I did to my F-body was put a real rear-end in it before I even put any power mods to it. As opposed to doing things backwards just so I can brag all year long about my "trap speeds". LOL That's the difference between you and I. ![Winky](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_wink.gif)
See, comments like this is what will get you ran out of the Tech forums. Tell that to all the other LS6 guys going faster with more agressive cams.
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The ls6 swap car should be faster. He woulda been better of with the stock cam and clearly left alot on the table.
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So after 4 years of not really having my car on the road I finally got it up and running. There was a guy locally here with a bolt on 5.0 that wanted to line up and do some runs.
My car is a forged 347, FM14 cam and stock heads. 411RWHP with full suspension, Hoosier QTP's and a 175 shot (no nitrous in this video). Best time was a 11.4 @ 120 on stock suspension
The Mustang is a full exhaust (headers included) bolt on car with 20" rims and some decent street tires.
First video is us test launching and goofing off. The street was very cold so we both ended up with traction issues.
Second video was our best dig run. Me by 2.5 cars or so. I drove his 5.0 and to be honest... it'll be my next car. I believe I could easily get mid to high 11's with a tire @ 117-119 MPH. It pulls THAT hard with minimal mods. Plus the car feels insanely solid overall.
BTW, your car runs hard for beeing cam only. Lot of fbody dont go 120mph with H/C.
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What do you own? What does the OP own?
We were clearly talking about Fbodies. Case and point.
4 recorded on this website and the LS1 has been out for how many years now? I get that it is possible, but the way you are talking in rhetoric, you make it sound like anybody could do it.
If so, come out to Iowa and help me out when I pick up another toy![The Judge](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_judge.gif)
Curious to see how your ET, trap, and dyno #s would be with a 9"
We were clearly talking about Fbodies. Case and point.
4 recorded on this website and the LS1 has been out for how many years now? I get that it is possible, but the way you are talking in rhetoric, you make it sound like anybody could do it.
If so, come out to Iowa and help me out when I pick up another toy
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Curious to see how your ET, trap, and dyno #s would be with a 9"
We will find out what it will do on a fab 9 soon enough.
You still haven't even put a decent rear end in your car. Where as me, the first thing I did to my F-body was put a real rear-end in it before I even put any power mods to it. As opposed to doing things backwards just so I can brag all year long about my "trap speeds". LOL That's the difference between you and I. ![Winky](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_wink.gif)
See, comments like this is what will get you ran out of the Tech forums. Tell that to all the other LS6 guys going faster with more agressive cams.![Icon Lol](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies2/icon_lol.gif)
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See, comments like this is what will get you ran out of the Tech forums. Tell that to all the other LS6 guys going faster with more agressive cams.
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What do you think a 9" is gonna take 10mph out of traps??? Thinking like that would get you ran out of tech forums.
Do you think the stock tq arm drives my mph up too?
I'll tell ya the difference between you and I. I can get this ls6 to trap 130+.....you had to buy a ZR1 to do it
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With that said I would rather have the ZR1....lol
As far as the ls6 swap with a cam car goes. Clearly that car is under performing. W/o knowing all details it's hard to say. But I would rather have a stock cam with a spot on tune than a cam and the tune be off any day. I'm sure anyone on a "tech" forum would agree. And I think there are alot of cam cars out there with the tunes off and even more with there combo's lacking.
My car is a street car .....dd actually. I would rather have a high trapping street car vs a awesome 60' drag car. Now at some point I will find a happy medium between them. When I do you will call more bs.
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I reduced the weight of it to help ALL aspects of performance w/o compromising it's dd ability. That also helps the 10bolt live. You for instance already said a 9" would be the first thing you have done. Your in the same boat as lots of others....thinking right inside that box.
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F-body, vette ....it don't really matter. I'm not saying anyone can do it. Clearly they can't. But I can, and that is all that really matters to me.
We will find out what it will do on a fab 9 soon enough.
I really have not had much for rearend problems until this axle breaking issue. I did break 2 sets of 4.10's but that is one reason why I tell people 4.10's suck for these cars. The 3.90's have been solid...not even a whimper out of them. Will they take a 6k 2step dump on a slick....probably not.
What do you think a 9" is gonna take 10mph out of traps??? Thinking like that would get you ran out of tech forums.
Do you think the stock tq arm drives my mph up too?
I'll tell ya the difference between you and I. I can get this ls6 to trap 130+.....you had to buy a ZR1 to do it![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
With that said I would rather have the ZR1....lol
As far as the ls6 swap with a cam car goes. Clearly that car is under performing. W/o knowing all details it's hard to say. But I would rather have a stock cam with a spot on tune than a cam and the tune be off any day. I'm sure anyone on a "tech" forum would agree. And I think there are alot of cam cars out there with the tunes off and even more with there combo's lacking.
My car is a street car .....dd actually. I would rather have a high trapping street car vs a awesome 60' drag car. Now at some point I will find a happy medium between them. When I do you will call more bs.![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
I reduced the weight of it to help ALL aspects of performance w/o compromising it's dd ability. That also helps the 10bolt live. You for instance already said a 9" would be the first thing you have done. Your in the same boat as lots of others....thinking right inside that box.
We will find out what it will do on a fab 9 soon enough.
I really have not had much for rearend problems until this axle breaking issue. I did break 2 sets of 4.10's but that is one reason why I tell people 4.10's suck for these cars. The 3.90's have been solid...not even a whimper out of them. Will they take a 6k 2step dump on a slick....probably not.
What do you think a 9" is gonna take 10mph out of traps??? Thinking like that would get you ran out of tech forums.
Do you think the stock tq arm drives my mph up too?
I'll tell ya the difference between you and I. I can get this ls6 to trap 130+.....you had to buy a ZR1 to do it
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With that said I would rather have the ZR1....lol
As far as the ls6 swap with a cam car goes. Clearly that car is under performing. W/o knowing all details it's hard to say. But I would rather have a stock cam with a spot on tune than a cam and the tune be off any day. I'm sure anyone on a "tech" forum would agree. And I think there are alot of cam cars out there with the tunes off and even more with there combo's lacking.
My car is a street car .....dd actually. I would rather have a high trapping street car vs a awesome 60' drag car. Now at some point I will find a happy medium between them. When I do you will call more bs.
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I reduced the weight of it to help ALL aspects of performance w/o compromising it's dd ability. That also helps the 10bolt live. You for instance already said a 9" would be the first thing you have done. Your in the same boat as lots of others....thinking right inside that box.
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**** I posted the log of the run in another thread. I have also posted a vid where it went 11.1 @126.xx feathering the gas and half sideways coming out the gate. Not to mention it has went 129+ on 3 different occasions. It's not like it's a one thing.
hey evan have you ever heard of a 10bolt driving up mph??
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Very true.
**** I posted the log of the run in another thread. I have also posted a vid where it went 11.1 @126.xx feathering the gas and half sideways coming out the gate. Not to mention it has went 129+ on 3 different occasions. It's not like it's a one thing.
hey evan have you ever heard of a 10bolt driving up mph??![Burnout](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_burnout.gif)
**** I posted the log of the run in another thread. I have also posted a vid where it went 11.1 @126.xx feathering the gas and half sideways coming out the gate. Not to mention it has went 129+ on 3 different occasions. It's not like it's a one thing.
hey evan have you ever heard of a 10bolt driving up mph??
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Very true.
**** I posted the log of the run in another thread. I have also posted a vid where it went 11.1 @126.xx feathering the gas and half sideways coming out the gate. Not to mention it has went 129+ on 3 different occasions. It's not like it's a one thing.
hey evan have you ever heard of a 10bolt driving up mph??![Burnout](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_burnout.gif)
**** I posted the log of the run in another thread. I have also posted a vid where it went 11.1 @126.xx feathering the gas and half sideways coming out the gate. Not to mention it has went 129+ on 3 different occasions. It's not like it's a one thing.
hey evan have you ever heard of a 10bolt driving up mph??
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I can see where Redfires coming from. For as much as you put other people's combinations down and strut your stuff around the SRK, some guys just want to see your car in action, that's all. How is that so complicated? You can bitch all you want about people "calling bs" or whatever but that goes with the territory. People like to see proof sometimes.
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My buddy trapped 122 with closed cut out and 4.10s on a 10 bolt. He trapped 124-125 with cut out open and dana 60 with 4.10s. Rear end weighed 75lbs more and cut out was worth 15whp. So if you ask me. No, going to another rear end really wont effect things all that noticably. Id imagine you would have more benefits from a rear end being able to launch the car that much harder then the added weight would hurt you. But then again... i drive a ford. My opinion is null...
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I must lose 10mph just to legitimize my car....lmao
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I can see where Redfires coming from. For as much as you put other people's combinations down and strut your stuff around the SRK, some guys just want to see your car in action, that's all. How is that so complicated? You can bitch all you want about people "calling bs" or whatever but that goes with the territory. People like to see proof sometimes.
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Split personality maybe???
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Its amazing how I keep breaking it down but you just don't get it. I never said you would gain 10mph, just in response to your "this is how I do things" comment I'm giving you an example of how you do things backwards.
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Do you have a timeslip of the 133 trap so I see what you're backhalfing?
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