Finally. Cammed T/A vs. Built 1976 camaro.
03-13-2013, 03:06 PM
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But overall it is harder for older cars to keep up... not only in quartermile but other factors such as driveability, handling, efficiency, and functionality.
I've had a 79 Trans Am, a 79 Camaro, and an 88 Trans Am and now the 98 Trans Am.. i've definitely seen for myself how technology and time has improved the F body.
03-13-2013, 03:15 PM
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There are always exceptions... my dad has an 11 second 68 GTO, his friend is part of the Midwest Super Stock Mafia with a 9 second street 'legal' 9 second 69 Camaro.
But overall it is harder for older cars to keep up... not only in quartermile but other factors such as driveability, handling, efficiency, and functionality.
I've had a 79 Trans Am, a 79 Camaro, and an 88 Trans Am and now the 98 Trans Am.. i've definitely seen for myself how technology and time has improved the F body.
But overall it is harder for older cars to keep up... not only in quartermile but other factors such as driveability, handling, efficiency, and functionality.
I've had a 79 Trans Am, a 79 Camaro, and an 88 Trans Am and now the 98 Trans Am.. i've definitely seen for myself how technology and time has improved the F body.
03-13-2013, 03:17 PM
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I know what you mean to an extent. Older vehicles are starting out with a disadvantage. Example, a Third Gen with a 305. But SBC's are nasty motors in the right hands. All it takes is somebody who knows what they are doing and not just somebody randomly picking up parts out of a summit catalog.
03-13-2013, 03:23 PM
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I know what you mean to an extent. Older vehicles are starting out with a disadvantage. Example, a Third Gen with a 305. But SBC's are nasty motors in the right hands. All it takes is somebody who knows what they are doing and not just somebody randomly picking up parts out of a summit catalog.
I was hell-bent on building my 357 to try to beat or LS1's but I truly didn't have the money and also wanted the driveability as well. I finally gave in to new technology lol.
Older SBCs are definitely GREAT motors! I picked all the parts for mine with the guidance of my machinist! But I didn't have the money for the go-fast parts. I ended up with a mild rebuild, longtubes, full 2.5" exhaust, stock stall and 3.73s and it was a 14.2 second car on street tires. Not too shabby but definitely on the slower side compared to today's standards.
03-14-2013, 06:29 AM
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Looking at your mods list, you've got a lot of money sitting their too though.
03-14-2013, 07:41 AM
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I know that a mild 350 in a 79 Camaro is not going to keep up with an LS1. It actually was beating my friend's bolt-on 98 z28 0-60 and then his top end horsepower kicked in, when my car was mainly torque.
But yeah they all definitely do require plenty of money.
As my friend's dad always says
"it's not about cubic inches, its about cubic dollars"
Sail Hatan where are you from?
03-14-2013, 07:59 AM
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There's other perks. I still get 20mpg, I have comfortable interior, no rattles or creaks.
No leaf springs, etc.
But I can't help but love a angry loud sbc.
Here was my last build.
355, 292 magnum cam, I forget what heads. It was a beast, but wasn't nearly as quick as my current car.
No leaf springs, etc.
But I can't help but love a angry loud sbc.
Here was my last build.
03-15-2013, 10:41 AM
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Congrats on the kill, it's funny when you surprise the local 'heroes' like that.
The older cars are at a distinct disadvantage right off the top. Typically heavier, poor cylinder head design in comparison (if factory castings in general), and generally guys don't put large enough converters in them to make them get out of their own way.
My first hot rod was a '79 camaro, I built a 383 for it that made 324/375 unlocked to the tires. It was a torque monster and was competitive on the street from a dig back in the day (2001)...but wouldn't hold a candle to any cammed LS car I've had since!
The older cars are at a distinct disadvantage right off the top. Typically heavier, poor cylinder head design in comparison (if factory castings in general), and generally guys don't put large enough converters in them to make them get out of their own way.
My first hot rod was a '79 camaro, I built a 383 for it that made 324/375 unlocked to the tires. It was a torque monster and was competitive on the street from a dig back in the day (2001)...but wouldn't hold a candle to any cammed LS car I've had since!
03-15-2013, 12:15 PM
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yea. I dont wanna anyone to think I dont like the older cars. I love them. I just love the new technology too. if i got my hands on a clean 67-73 camaro roller, my car would be coming apart for parts. lol.
03-16-2013, 01:21 AM
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Yes I agree, and his intake and carb combo was hurting him to, cause I know he is not running high compression. A air gap eldebrock dual plane would have served him better. Great looking car though, and good kill OP.