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Old 03-28-2013, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
I understand that. But you didn't see people buying them to DD either. I was hoping for a ls7 option for the SS that didn't jump the price 20k. Would made me think about a camaro.
Not gonna happen. This is the LS7 were talking about, the only other vehicle you can get one in is the $80,000 Corvette Z06! The crate motor alone is about $15k. LOL

And if im not mistaken it can be had with A/C if you opt for it.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
I like the car...except... it has the same issue... its heavy. 300lbs lighter then a ZL1 brings it in at 3900lbs....hardly anything i would consider..."light". With my car currently coming in at 3200lbs.... well...yea..
Your car is not stock weight so that's not comparable. I agree tho it is too heavy, but I have a feeling the LS7 will offset that a good amount.

Its going to be cool seeing H/C/I E85 5th gens riding around with 600rwhp ALL MOTOR!
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Not gonna happen. This is the LS7 were talking about, the only other vehicle you can get one in is the $80,000 Corvette Z06! The crate motor alone is about $15k. LOL

And if im not mistaken it can be had with A/C if you opt for it.
Yes AC stand alone is optional. Still no stereo, hids, fogs, as most people with 5th gems want these things. And why yes true it is an ls7. But bare Bo es SS with option for ls7. Would have been nice. Hell then mated to Zn auto for the drag strip. Nice stall, h/c package. Would been nice.

Oh well my wife still thinks she wants an SS so I will most likely end up with one to tinker with.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Your car is not stock weight so that's not comparable. I agree tho it is too heavy, but I have a feeling the LS7 will offset that a good amount.

Its going to be cool seeing H/C/I E85 5th gens riding around with 600rwhp ALL MOTOR!
I understand mine isnt stock weight, however... it was 3550 bone stock. Stock for stock, i dont see the z28 being faster (in a straight line) then the ZL1. I do however see it being much more consistant since it wont suffer from heat issues.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Yes AC stand alone is optional. Still no stereo, hids, fogs, as most people with 5th gems want these things. And why yes true it is an ls7. But bare Bo es SS with option for ls7. Would have been nice. Hell then mated to Zn auto for the drag strip. Nice stall, h/c package. Would been nice.

Oh well my wife still thinks she wants an SS so I will most likely end up with one to tinker with.
Generally when people set out to buy a (purpose built) car like this, they're usually not concerned about certain amentities like fog lights and HID's. This car is not going to attract your average buyer of the SS and V6 models. Potential buyers will know all of what this car is about, just like buyers of those purpose built Mustangs Ford has produced over the years. I'm willing to bet many of these cars will actually be used for their intended purpose on a road course. You can always add a radio.

I think an LS3 SS should be plenty for the wife.

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I understand mine isnt stock weight, however... it was 3550 bone stock. Stock for stock, i dont see the z28 being faster (in a straight line) then the ZL1. I do however see it being much more consistant since it wont suffer from heat issues.
You're right it will be more consistent in stock form than the ZL1. What I'm most excited to see is when guys start throwing mods at them. The LS7 responds like crazy to mods. Just like the Z06 these cars won't stay stock for long.
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Car and driver reported GM told them this will be the most expensive camaro and it is faater then the ZL1. So that makes it 60k+. **** that
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Sadly for $60k it still won't beat the 2013 GT500 in a straight line but at least it closes up the gap!!!!!

Originally Posted by evangto87
Boss 302s are overrated...my vids prove this more and more every time
Yours is the exception w/that incompetent driver mod
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Originally Posted by GotHemi?
Bad *** car! Rear is fugly. Very impratical. Car will be $60k+. C&D has already said it will be faster and more expensive than the ZL1. To go to the extremes of losing AC and radio just to shed a 100lbs off of a stock SS is pretty hilarious. It will be a track monster tho.
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Car and driver reported GM told them this will be the most expensive camaro and it is faater then the ZL1. So that makes it 60k+. **** that
READ the thread dipshit!!! LOL

With a price like that i would just mod a 1LE. (h/c/i or forced induction) Have all the good stuff like AC and wipe the floor with the Z28. All while being cheaper...
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Originally Posted by GotHemi?
READ the thread dipshit!!! LOL

With a price like that i would just mod a 1LE. (h/c/i or forced induction) Have all the good stuff like AC and wipe the floor with the Z28. All while being cheaper...
I will just buy a 5.0 throw a blower on and do it cheaper. Oh wait done already. )
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Originally Posted by evangto87
Boss 302s are overrated...my vids prove this more and more every time
i totally agree.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Generally when people set out to buy a (purpose built) car like this, they're usually not concerned about certain amentities like fog lights and HID's. This car is not going to attract your average buyer of the SS and V6 models. Potential buyers will know all of what this car is about, just like buyers of those purpose built Mustangs Ford has produced over the years. I'm willing to bet many of these cars will actually be used for their intended purpose on a road course. You can always add a radio.

I think an LS3 SS should be plenty for the wife.



You're right it will be more consistent in stock form than the ZL1. What I'm most excited to see is when guys start throwing mods at them. The LS7 responds like crazy to mods. Just like the Z06 these cars won't stay stock for long.
I just wished that a car that didnt come with a radio or AC would weigh significantly less. I gotta have my tunes...and ive been down the no AC road..all set lol. But with 300lbs of weight reduction and another 50whp... that could be a pretty damn stout car. I need to get my CJ intake setup before people start modding these up lol
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Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
Sadly for $60k it still won't beat the 2013 GT500 in a straight line but at least it closes up the gap!!!!!



Yours is the exception w/that incompetent driver mod
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Originally Posted by evangto87
Boss 302s are overrated...my vids prove this more and more every time
I was wondering how long it would take for you to talk about your boss.
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dont be mad they put an ls7 in your car...
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It actually doesnt bother me one bit. I have the ideal motor for my setup
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Where does the 3900lb figure come from? 300lbs lighter then a ZL1 puts it right around 3800lbs, identical to a SS. I don't see how it could be same weight as an SS though as a LS7 is the same weight as a LS3??? Thing "should" be 150-200lbs lighter then a SS but it appears it is not. WTF? where did the added weight come from?
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Originally Posted by evangto87
I just wished that a car that didnt come with a radio or AC would weigh significantly less. I gotta have my tunes...and ive been down the no AC road..all set lol. But with 300lbs of weight reduction and another 50whp... that could be a pretty damn stout car. I need to get my CJ intake setup before people start modding these up lol
A CJ setup won't help you against a heads/cam LS7 Camaro. You will need a LOT more to compete.

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Where does the 3900lb figure come from? 300lbs lighter then a ZL1 puts it right around 3800lbs, identical to a SS. I don't see how it could be same weight as an SS though as a LS7 is the same weight as a LS3??? Thing "should" be 150-200lbs lighter then a SS but it appears it is not. WTF? where did the added weight come from?
I'm a bit confused too about that. Seems it should be lighter than what they're saying.
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Can't wait to see if Ford comes out with something to compete with the Z/28.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
A CJ setup won't help you against a heads/cam LS7 Camaro. You will need a LOT more to compete.



I'm a bit confused too about that. Seems it should be lighter than what they're saying.
Who said anything about racing a H/C ls7 with a bolt on 5.0 lol. I would hope it would torch me with a H/C setup. I was thinking more bolt ons to bolt ons.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
Where does the 3900lb figure come from? 300lbs lighter then a ZL1 puts it right around 3800lbs, identical to a SS. I don't see how it could be same weight as an SS though as a LS7 is the same weight as a LS3??? Thing "should" be 150-200lbs lighter then a SS but it appears it is not. WTF? where did the added weight come from?
The ZL1 sticks are 4120... the autos are 4200. My friend who has one jumped on the scale (who is 190lbs) and it totaled 4410. His is an auto.


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