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Old 05-25-2013, 12:08 PM
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stock a4 auto < stock m6 auto
stall only a4 auto >>>> stock m6 auto


A yank ss3600 converter does wonders for a stock powerband ls1 platform. Gears will only slightly help. For the most part a converter does all the work.

My GTO had stock 3.46 gears and a Circle D 4k verter (round about) with a high reving motor. I felt no reason to change out the gears in the car. And it went 11.4 pretty easily on street tires. I rolled into the throttle in first gear. Had i had just a drag radial on that same stock wheel... 11.0s would have been achievable. Car only made 443whp.
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Originally Posted by Razor01Z28
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What do you not understand about that? Also see above for some clarification.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
What do you not understand about that? Also see above for some clarification.
You said it's the BEST YOU'VE EVER SEEN, mod/performance wise. When it only has 1 mod that actually does something, and stock power. Excuse me for finding humor in that.

Not to mention he was on street tires. DR's on that car would have mopped you up from a dig.
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Mach is doing work !
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Originally Posted by Razor01Z28
You said it's the BEST YOU'VE EVER SEEN, mod/performance wise. When it only has 1 mod that actually does something, and stock power. Excuse me for finding humor in that.
No you said that I said more than that. So point out where I said more than that.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
No you said that I said more than that. So point out where I said more than that.
Don't get yourself in an argument with razor, you will win quickly, but he won't realize that.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Since when do gears help out a 3600 stalled auto?

News to me.
I did it to tighten up the converter a little bit, mainly to firm up the shifts. Personal preference on that part. Also did it to carry a little higher RPM across the 1/4 to pick up a little trap, etc. Other than that, gears on top of a stall doesn't do much.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
No you said that I said more than that. So point out where I said more than that.
Do you not know how to read?

''Best I've ever seen, period. And I've seen a lot'' is a lot different than just ''runs good for it's mods''.

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Stoppy, that 2nd run was a good one. Your car was no doubt pulling on him and jumps out hard, but like the Camaro owner stated, he's in dire need of a tune. Regardless, nice run man.
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I think once he has the drag radials on he will put a hurting on me. Stalled autos are no joke...
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
I think once he has the drag radials on he will put a hurting on me. Stalled autos are no joke...
It'll help him hang with you better on the jump for sure. Are you dead hooking on the street with those tires and gear from a 20 roll?
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Originally Posted by McClean
Ok, lets clear the air since the original poster obviously can't post all the correct facts. And yes . . . I own the slow *** Z28 in the vids.

1. My car has a Yank 3600SS stall not a 4400 stall!
2. The car shifts at 6200 rpm not 6500, but in the heat of the day the trans flares a bit and it will shift a little higher. I need to tune the car badly but have not had a chance yet.
3. Other than the stall the car is stone stock short of a SLP lid and SLP loudmouth catback.

His car has a full dyno tune plus many mods including 4:56 rear gears. It wasn't a surprise he beat a 2:73 geared auto LS1. This car saw 600 miles of driving this week which is average. I'm not interested in making the car the fastest street car, thats left for my 87 Grand National.

The best race which WAS legit was the second race which he still won. We both hit at the same time and both lifted at the same time. He had about 1/2 to 3/4 car at 105.

Those are the facts. Hope everyone enjoys the weekend.

-Brian
I want details on the GN!!!!
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Originally Posted by GtoSpd
It'll help him hang with you better on the jump for sure. Are you dead hooking on the street with those tires and gear from a 20 roll?
Yea pretty much until I shift to 2nd then I spin
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Knowing what he has for mods this race makes perfect sense and its not hard to fathom that his car ran better than most for its mods (or lack of)... I've ran into a lot of people who simply can't drive (yes even autos).

EDIT: derp didn't even think about the passenger in the car... Get a gopro mounted and run without passengers next time.

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Hey stoppy....Did you have a passenger also?
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The car has a lid and catback as well. My guess with LTs and a 3.42/3.73 rear/DR would close that gap with a slight edge to the z28. At that point the mach should grab longtubes as well. I think it would make for a pretty legit race...

Of course there will be the nutswingers on both sides who say it will be a slaughter blah blah blah
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Originally Posted by McClean
Ok, lets clear the air since the original poster obviously can't post all the correct facts. And yes . . . I own the slow *** Z28 in the vids.

1. My car has a Yank 3600SS stall not a 4400 stall!
2. The car shifts at 6200 rpm not 6500, but in the heat of the day the trans flares a bit and it will shift a little higher. I need to tune the car badly but have not had a chance yet.
3. Other than the stall the car is stone stock short of a SLP lid and SLP loudmouth catback.

His car has a full dyno tune plus many mods including 4:56 rear gears. It wasn't a surprise he beat a 2:73 geared auto LS1. This car saw 600 miles of driving this week which is average. I'm not interested in making the car the fastest street car, thats left for my 87 Grand National.

The best race which WAS legit was the second race which he still won. We both hit at the same time and both lifted at the same time. He had about 1/2 to 3/4 car at 105.

Those are the facts. Hope everyone enjoys the weekend.

-Brian
ROFLMAO
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Hey stoppy....Did you have a passenger also?
No I didn't. After the races I said we should have switched to where he was in my car and no passenger in the LS1 but I called off anymore races because I wasn't liking the coming down from 100+ with the Nexens. I think with the passenger in my car and not in the LS1 it would have been dead nuts even.
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Good runs yallz! Hopefully there will some good'uns tonight.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
No I didn't. After the races I said we should have switched to where he was in my car and no passenger in the LS1 but I called off anymore races because I wasn't liking the coming down from 100+ with the Nexens. I think with the passenger in my car and not in the LS1 it would have been dead nuts even.
Agreed. That was going to be my question as well. That second race was definitely the difference of a passenger. Great driving. Now I really wish we could somehow run. I think it'd be a great matchup but you would for sure get me from a 20 the way you hook. 40 and up and I'm pretty sure I have that one. Great runs though.


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