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Old 07-07-2013, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by adamantium
I was talking about the weight he got it down too. Since you've done what you've done to make your car run the way it runs. Not many 5.0s are doing what your car does with your mods. I think the new z28 will be a 118-119 mph car from factory.
the 800 rpm higher redline over the lsa and hopefully no tuning issues will help it for sure.
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400-420 rwhp is what the 392 hemi puts down. I think a 500hp ls7 should put down a little more. Also if both cars are stock Z28 > Boss Id like to see both cars with full boltons without weight reduction go at it. I figure the ls7 would be 135 mph trap car lol
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Not even close man, not even close.
camaro ss-3411lb
mustang 5.0-3620 lb

Edit: lol just realized we were talking about the 5th gen vs the 5.0.

I was that tired yesterday.
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Originally Posted by adamantium
I was talking about the weight he got it down too. Since you've done what you've done to make your car run the way it runs. Not many 5.0s are doing what your car does with your mods. I think the new z28 will be a 118-119 mph car from factory.
to be honest... i dont see it... atleast not in normal air at a normal track. My buddies ZL1 bested 12.4 at 114 the same day i went 12.3 at 117 with my **** bum setup. Remove 80hp... and 350lbs... and thats the z28. If they took most of the weight out of the drivetrain... its possible i guess. But i have no doubt in the same conditions a z06 will have a solid 10mph on the z28 stock for stock... and no not Ranger stock lol. And my weight reduction is in no way comparible to dietcoke. If i did what he did, my race weight would come in between 2900-3000lbs.
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Your looking at the 4th gen camaro. IF the new one came in at 3400lbs the 5.0 guys would be crying lol. And new ones are over 3800lbs a vert is like 4200lbs.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
to be honest... i dont see it... atleast not in normal air at a normal track. My buddies ZL1 bested 12.4 at 114 the same day i went 12.3 at 117 with my **** bum setup. Remove 80hp... and 350lbs... and thats the z28. If they took most of the weight out of the drivetrain... its possible i guess. But i have no doubt in the same conditions a z06 will have a solid 10mph on the z28 stock for stock... and no not Ranger stock lol. And my weight reduction is in no way comparible to dietcoke. If i did what he did, my race weight would come in between 2900-3000lbs.
The ZL1 is going to be like 400lbs+ heavier than the new z28. The ZL1 is 300lbs+ heavier than the SS and the Z28 is rumored to be 100lbs+ lighter than the SS. That being said i think 118-119 in good air with a good driver can be done.

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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
400-420 rwhp is what the 392 hemi puts down. I think a 500hp ls7 should put down a little more. Also if both cars are stock Z28 > Boss Id like to see both cars with full boltons without weight reduction go at it. I figure the ls7 would be 135 mph trap car lol
How do you figure? The fastest bolt on max effort z06 does 135-136. You honestly think its fat cousin will do the same? Come on man. And you cant possibly not do weight reduction in going bolt ons. Weight literally falls off as you mod it. I havent TRIED to pull weight, its just happened as ive replaced things. As far as factory dyno numbers. The ls3 vette puts down 15-25whp more then a fifth gen ls3. Drivetrain loss on fifth gens is insane. If an ls7 c6 rolls 435wph, do the math...410-420whp is what you will see. Obviously on a happy dyno you will see more.

Originally Posted by adamantium
camaro ss-3411lb
mustang 5.0-3620 lb
huh... my car was 3550 stock and an SS is 3900lbs. Are you referring to a 4th gen?
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Wow my ls2 V runs close to his trap speeds lol. And i only have headers haha. Poor ZL1
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I was joking about the trap speeds lol. And ls3 camaros put down about 420 whp with bolt ons ? And im talking about removing seats, carpet ext
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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
I was joking about the trap speeds lol. And ls3 camaros put down about 420 whp with bolt ons ? And im talking about removing seats, carpet ext
on the internet... yes... but locally, if a full exhaust, ported intake, air intake, tune ls3 fifth gen hits 400whp... thats a strong car.
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Originally Posted by evangto87



huh... my car was 3550 stock and an SS is 3900lbs. Are you referring to a 4th gen?
lol yeah i was, sorry. I guess i was half asleep or something when i first saw this thread.
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Idk i always see over 400 rwhp. My L99 put down 360 with headers and tune.
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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
Idk i always see over 400 rwhp. My L99 put down 360 with headers and tune.
I think talking dyno numbers is subjective.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
How do you figure? The fastest bolt on max effort z06 does 135-136. You honestly think its fat cousin will do the same? Come on man. And you cant possibly not do weight reduction in going bolt ons. Weight literally falls off as you mod it. I havent TRIED to pull weight, its just happened as ive replaced things. As far as factory dyno numbers. The ls3 vette puts down 15-25whp more then a fifth gen ls3. Drivetrain loss on fifth gens is insane. If an ls7 c6 rolls 435wph, do the math...410-420whp is what you will see. Obviously on a happy dyno you will see more.



huh... my car was 3550 stock and an SS is 3900lbs. Are you referring to a 4th gen?

137, actually. you always downplay gm numbers and exaggerate ford numbers.
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So if a zo6 traps 137 max effort. That must mean a boss max effort will do 140 mph
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Originally Posted by big hammer
137, actually. you always downplay gm numbers and exaggerate ford numbers.
Oh no i was off by 1 mph... damn me for downplaying that... .
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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
So if a zo6 traps 137 max effort. That must mean a boss max effort will do 140 mph
Now youre just trying to hard...
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Originally Posted by evangto87
Oh no i was off by 1 mph... damn me for downplaying that... .
and you're kind of a shitty driver too.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
i meant 580hp... not whp. Point was that with 580hp at the motor, it dynoed 463whp with an air intake on it. Whats it gonna dyno with 500hp?
If you were smart, you would already know the answer to that question, derp.

Originally Posted by evangto87
Thats just big hammer trolling... i trapped 117 last year on street tires with a bad setup car. 2 completely diff cars now. And everyone keeps hyping up the weight of the z28. Does no one realize its going to be 3800lbs? My car weighs 3200lbs. And i guarentee i make more whp then a factory z28. Its well known the vettes put more power down then the fifth gens with the exact same power plant. My guess is the new z28 will roll around 410whp on my dyno considering the vettes make roughly 430-435whp on mine.
Cool ******* story bro! No one gives a flying horse's patoot that your modded/stripped out Rustang could beat a stock, full weight camaro.

And where are you getting this ''LS3's dyno less in a camaro compared to a vette'' BS? They all dyno right around 370rwhp.
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Seen a stock boss the other day take down a gsxr 1000. But then again the guy was pushing his bike not a bad win id say


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