Originally Posted by R6cowboy

I'm not impressed with the OP's track times what-so-ever, but I also understand his set-up is not completely dialed in yet. It's obvious the OP knows this as well. I agree them 5.13 gears need to be ditched and obviously the car needs tuning, etc. But some folks just can't refrain themselves from constantly being total unhelpful criticizing *********. Most of what these people do is bitch, complain and do nothing that's helpful in any way. It's the direct opposite of what a lot of real car guys do, and that's to give helpful advice and criticism. Not act like 16 year old "ricers" and only point out how much their car sucks.

Originally Posted by Knight-Z06

you shouldnt care what these dudes say ,

i mean that adamatuim dude doesnt even own a lsx vehicle !


screw what the other cats say , good luck with your build

Originally Posted by Lawhead

I won't be bringing an LS powered car......btw....

Are there any 1/4 mile tracks near you?

Originally Posted by Knight-Z06

you shouldnt care what these dudes say ,

i mean that adamatuim dude doesnt even own a lsx vehicle !


screw what the other cats say , good luck with your build

Originally Posted by OVA1

ROFLMNAO! Are you serious? You spout off about your LS powered ride, and when the rubber hits the road you need to change it up.

You people are HYSTERICAL, in every sense of the word. Bring what ya will… just remember to bring somethin'.

Pick a date and let the games begin.

Originally Posted by adamantium

Yeah dude i don't, i own a mach1.

Originally Posted by adamantium

Yeah dude i don't, i own a mach1.

Originally Posted by Puck

You guys are hilarious, this is why I stay out of SRK and try to post where the average IQ is higher then room temperature.

FWIW, the 7.76 was on his old 350, not the current stroker. Current build is untuned, with way too small heads, and 60'ing terribly...he used to do low ~1.5s IIRC, but has not dialed in the new combo and is doing bolt-on 60' times of 1.7+. Anyone who races at the track more then they post on the internet knows how much 2 tenths in the 60' is worth at the end of the track. He has his 350 setup on the 396, so obviously it is not an optimal combo yet. Don't act like its some giant race cam either, its just an XFI292 shelf grind, tiny for a 396 and people run that on stock cube cars.

Even with the mismatched heads, once its tuned and dialed in it will not be something most people here would want to mess with at the track. I have no ties to his car and no reason to defend it, just stating the facts.



Will the carb'd 6.0 be done, cuz I hope it won't be in that slow Formy...?

Time to calm down, and let the thread die before the mods come back with another round of bans. Unless you guys want to go hang out on random forums with the last round of trolls that got the boot.

Originally Posted by Lawhead

I won't be bringing anything LS powered.....How hard is this to get through your head. I posted a video of what I'll be bringing......a 100% street car to your 5.13 geared Automagic LT1 ground pounder...

Originally Posted by OVA1

Puck! Your recollection is correct… as is your well expressed opinion of the situation.

Thanks much for taking the time to contribute.

It would be great if we could get some discussion going on constructive issues, such as how setups change from season to season, proper stall size for given setups… the ever present 'best heads' issue, what techniques work best on wet, poorly prepped tracks, etc.

But it's a difficult task, on this forum for some reason.


Anywho kids… I'm headin' out on the water. Fill free to chime in and we'll pick it up later on tonight.

TTFN

Originally Posted by OVA1

Well I guess that F-body in your sig threw me off. Fair enough, Just pick a day and don't forget to bring somethin'.

And FTR: It's not exactly an LT1, and it is fully street… I drive it just about everyday somewhere. I'll be driving it to the track…

Originally Posted by OVA1

It would be great if we could get some discussion going on constructive issues, such as... what techniques work best on wet...

Originally Posted by R6cowboy

adamantium, its downright silly that cracked paint on a rear bumper, another guy's car club sig, etc. causes you to be so bent outta shape you stoop down to ridiculing and mocking like you have some huge chip your shoulder.

Originally Posted by OVA1

Dude… that SAME CAR… ran 7.76 on that that same track, trapping 88 mph with Cammed/header/gears… on a PCM for Less mail tune.

Now that time was in fall/winter with cool, sweet, dry air… This set up will likely do 7.20s at mid 90s in the fall/winter, IF I DO NOTHING ELSE. Which, FTR is what the old set up ran on a 75 shot.

This is SW Florida in August… As I write this, it is POURING DOWN RAIN all around me, as I sit on my Lanai.

On the day at issue, it had rained ALL DAY on that track, the video clearly shows the thunder heads surrounding the track… it never got below the mid-high 80s and the humidity was in the mid-nineties, thus the 'humiture' was well into the mid-90s, on a rain soaked track. They almost didn't run the track that night and let me tell ya, the place was a swamp.

The 'herd of discontent' wants to ignore ALL OF THAT, implying that the CAR SUCKS, when it ran high, to mid-high 7s in about the worst conditions one can get without active precip…

Now I have been at this a while myself… and as just an FYI, on my FIRST day at the drags many years ago, I pulled into the pits and parked next to a gorgeous black on black GTO.

The kid driving it was all too happy to lift the hood and show me his new Fast Intake and headers and told me all about his new cam (he also had Mickey DRs, which, at the time I didn't have a clue about what that meant.).

In my neophyte condition, I felt sure I'd be competitive with the car, but soon came to understand the difference between a basically stock (CAI, Firebird hood and monster spoiler ) 9 year old pony car, with 150K of hard earned miles and a brand new significantly modded LS platform. Kid ran low 8.30s, dipping into the high-mid-high 8.20s. I ran mid 9s… THAT is one of those epiphanies that one doesn't forget…

And thus began the journey. In short order I had tore my engine out, dipped and honed, new bearings, rings, refreshed the heads, 3 angle grind, valves, new seats, springs, 1.6 comp mag rrs… modest Comp cam, headers and a set of 4.10 gears and a PCMforless MOT… And for the effort, I was running in the rarified air of the mid, to mid-high 8s. Then fall came along and I was running mid to low 8s. And naturally, the GTO was running low 8s/high 7s…(What must THAT be like?, right?)

BUT NOT IN AUGUST. It's presently AUGUST in SW FL, so we are discussing what happens in AUGUST…

There's got to be some objectivity or the entire concept devolves into something approaching meaningless.

So now, let's discuss the major bone of contention…

Ya can't bust out of the whole unless the car hooks… the car can't hook in a wet track with Nitto 555s, so ya can't pre-load. If ya can't pre-load, the best ya can do is break to the idle and give it as much as she'll take until she breaks loose, get out and get back in for another try…

Now while the Nittos aren't the greatest drag radial out there, I'm sure you'll agree that they ARE better than street radials.

Now that car has a fully modified suspension. BMR, from soup to nuts up front, Hotchkis LCAs and panhard out back and an old UMI Adjustable Torque arm…

The only thing stock in the entire suspension are the springs. The KYB shocks aren't the best, but they're better than what was on there…

For the first night out, I had all settings on 50% of the shocks adjustable range and haven't played with the settings to find out if there's a better pattern, but with that said… are you, given your experience, going to defend the claim that a guy rolled out of the hole to a 1.7 60 on street radials?

I am telling you and everyone else, that on just the evidence of that just described, with all of the torque that YOU KNOW is in that 396 setup and with brand new DRs, which had JUST BEEN INSTALLED an HOUR before those runs, that using a similar exit procedure, that a H/C goat on stock suspension produced a 1.7 60?

It didn't happen… its not going to happen. And anyone with any seat time at the stage, who's had to launch on street radials dam' well knows it.

Anywho… I appreciate your contribution and agree with nearly all of what you have said. Thank you for taking the time to join the discussion. I hope you continue to do so.

Originally Posted by Lawhead

I could careless 5.13 gears in an automatic is far from street car like but regardless its a long drive I'll be expecting hotel reservations and fronting the gas money like you've already stated plus what I'd like to "Wager" I might be able to actually have a good time down in richy rich naples!