06X6spdGTO

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Yeah, Im pretty sure Id take the Pfadt suspension over the "ZL1 NETWORK" with 580bhp vs the Modded 416 YSi 2013 SS making 750+whp...

Get back on your GM band wagon.

OVA1

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I see what ya mean about the revs. They did cut it off at 6500.

I wonder why they decided to keep it down so low… . What are the LS3 Vettes turning? I would assume that they're running at least 7k if not 7500.

I haven't looked at any dyno sheets, but just in watching the videos of the faster 500s they seem to be turning and making good power, quite a bit higher.

HioSSilver

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I'll take the ZL stuff. The car works pretty damn good....just needs a bit more powa!
IDK why they don't turn it harder. Idk where the valvesprings give up but I would think it could take 7k. If it was still making power there I would put a better set of springs on it and turn it more. The combo of turning it harder and staying in a lower gear longer would make it **** and git.

OVA1

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So you're pretty sure that the Pfadt shocks are the equivalent to a suspension network…? Oh now THAT is fascinatin'…

How you got to modded 416s making 750+whp is anyone's guess. I expect most of us would prefer more power. Sadly that wasn't the issue to which you responded. But thanks for sharing, nonetheless. You're quite the rebel aren't ya?

Poppacapp

As far as my car goes personally, I could turn it 7k, but I prefer to keep it safe. Once you start getting near the 750rwhp range on these motors, rpm seems to be what causes the failures. I shift mine in the 6200 range and dont plan on turning it higher until I build the motor.

islander033

I pull gears at 6400rpm. I'll build it better once it ventilates itself. Lol

Poppacapp

My rev limit is set to 6600 right now. Hope it lasts a little longer before "ventilation" But as long as we stay in the 750rwhp range, the motor should last a good long while with the stock forged internals.

islander033

That's my hope too, but I seem to push it harder and harder all the time.

OVA1

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Thanks Pops. Makes sense… .

06X6spdGTO

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Sadly you missed the point,

Youd be the last guy Id take advice from with a built/stalled/5.13 geared Small Block trying to get better than a 7.4 in the 1/8th!!

My point was clear STOCK ZL1 = $58,000

2013 2SS = $32900

Vortech V7 YSI = $7,100.00 (WARRANTY)

Forged 416 Shortblock = $4300.00 (WARRANTY)

Mcleod RXT = $1300.00

Gforce 9in IRS kit = $4100.00 (LIFETIME WARRANTY)

LTs = $1000.00

Pfadt Stage 2 Kit = $4600.00

Fuel Pump = $800.00

80 FIC Injectors = $450.00

Cam/Springs/Pushrods = $740.00


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Total: $57300 + whatever I would save on plates and taxes towards tuning or install if you didnt want to do it all yourself... and dont forget youd still have a stock clutch, LS3 Shortblock, Fuel pump, Diff, etc to sell to help put added $ in your pocket

Youd be over 750whp with the 2013 SS easily on this setup!! ZL1 would still be sitting at 505-515whp.

Lawhead

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I was honestly asking you said 2.3 blower and headers and tune and you're there wasn't sure where "there" was LoL

Heater

That made me chuckle

OVA1

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LOL… Hey! It's a work in progress. The PCM was dumping fuel. If you think you can do better, get your *** down here and grab a wrench.

Come on brother. I understand your point. Its a good one. Why are you busting my *****. I freakin' AGREED WITH YOU! for the most part.

Where we disagree is in the credence you're giving to the suspension SYSTEM.

The magnetic ride control system is not a set of shocks and a sway bar. The SS doesn't have it… The ZL1 does. It's a biggy. Granted… in a drag race, it's not all that important.

Could I do without it? 53 years so far… . Would I like to try it? Yep. Do I think I'd like it? Oh yeah.

Ok?

Now… with that said. My old fuel dumping, underperforming build is faster than the ZL1 (down low, where it counts). I've run three of them so far and bested two by no small margin. With the last one tying out. But that was after I had bent the car and was getting flogged by the ridiculous wheel-hop that came along with that.

Doesn't mean my car is better than a ZL1 just faster…


Dah… I'll be in that neighborhood in a few weeks and for one helluva lot less than what you're spending. Paid two grand for the car… 7 or 8 years ago. Filled up the tank a few times since. Might paint it some day.

But, huh…, I huh…, I still don't have magnetic ride control and I'll still be running the spool, so huh… turns. Well, turns are OK I guess, if ya have to get somewhere, but I'd just as soon avoid 'em.

We good?

OVA1

iTrader: (12)

LOL!

You there sure, wasn't head blowner tune, where what?

AliasG

Bolt-On ZL1 runs 10.67@126

CAI
2.55 Upper Pulley
Ported Inlet Snout
8.66 Lower Pulley
Long Tubes
160 Deg Thermostat
102mm Throttle Body
Tune

automach1

Solid time but it's not a bolton car based off ls1 tech logic.

islander033

That ported snout is in the grey area for bolt ons, I could be convinced either way with the proper amount of beer.

That car lays down some good runs either way.

automach1

I agree. TVS is a bolton as well

PBMGTO

Good kill...a wins a win anything can happen on the streets no matter how it looks on paper.

Irunelevens

Great et, but that trap speed is still lower than some stock GT500s have run. Impressive time/trap for sure for those few mods, it's just that the gap between the cars is so sizable stock and stays there/increases with each modification.