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Old 12-06-2013, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by big hammer
the duramax is good. the powerstroke is terrible.
Unless the DuraJap was in the Ferd then

Powerstoke >DuraJap
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Originally Posted by big hammer
the duramax is good. the powerstroke is terrible.
Why does this comment not suprise me? For a bright guy, you sure are a brand-loyal, biased SOB.
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He's trolling man......He's getting real bad at it
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early d-max's had premature injector failure. 6.0's and 6.4's had chronic engine failures. I can see how they're very similar.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
early d-max's had premature injector failure. 6.0's and 6.4's had chronic engine failures. I can see how they're very similar.
OHHH you mean like the LS7 dropping valves and the 4Vs popping plugs

Very similar
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And couldn't pull a load without over heating lmao. 6.4 > duramax
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Originally Posted by big hammer
the 04-07 d-max's have no typical early failure injector issues. you're thinking of the lbz's. 04+ got totally different injectors.
Close...the '01-'04.5 trucks were the LB7, known for the injector issue. Once they're done w/ the new updated ones, good to go. The '04.5-'05s had the LLY which didn't have the injector issues but had some overheating issues, easily fixed though. The LBZs were '06-'07 Classic, best one GM made IMO...no emssions, no injector/overheating issues.

****, I have a '05 2500HD CCSB w/ the 6.0 gasser...terrible MPG and slow as hell, but it's bulletproof.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
early d-max's had premature injector failure. 6.0's and 6.4's had chronic engine failures. I can see how they're very similar.
Chronic is right. We had 2 Ford F550 service trucks with 6.0's that had 3 engines replaced in each in their 250k mile life span.
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
OHHH you mean like the LS7 dropping valves and the 4Vs popping plugs

Very similar

the 2v's were popping plugs. the 3v's seize in solid.
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Best way to get them out is to lift the cab off lmao. Even in the cars haha
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My best friend is a ford mechanic now dealer service writer and he does not have high thoughts of the Ecoboost trucks. I guess they have plenty of issues.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
the 2v's were popping plugs. the 3v's seize in solid.
Much better than dropping a Valve and destroying the entire engine

Gotcha
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
Much better than dropping a Valve and destroying the entire engine

Gotcha
supplier issue.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
supplier issue.
Head design issue
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
Head design issue
like all ford trucks after 1996.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
the 04-07 d-max's have no typical early failure injector issues. you're thinking of the lbz's. 04+ got totally different injectors.
01-04 is an lb7 not an lbz
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Originally Posted by big hammer
like all ford trucks after 1996.
Like all DoD equipped trucks
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Originally Posted by big hammer
supplier issue.
Originally Posted by Lawhead
Head design issue
I'm about to be running a set of LS7's so I'll chime in. It's not a design or supplier issue according to LSX head gurus. Due to emissions and having to keep as much oil out of the combustion chamber, GM seals the valves tight, not allowing enough oil to get to and cool the valves. Since the exhaust valve sees much more heat and is punished more eventually, through heat cycle metal fatigue, the inevitable happens.
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So far on the web, this thread has the Ecoboost being the biggest P.O.S, that I have seen. Up until this thread, the only two problems I have heard from them have been the first two years of production, the IC was too big causing it to be inefficient and collecting moisture...causing the truck to not build boost and run rough. Ford has since corrected that. The only other problem that I have heard was driveshaft vibration from the two piece driveshafts, I have yet to hear a fix for that. I have several friends that have them and they all love them, with the exception of one friend, that the dealership can't seem to correct his drive shaft vibration problem.
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Originally Posted by Heater
So far on the web, this thread has the Ecoboost being the biggest P.O.S, that I have seen. Up until this thread, the only two problems I have heard from them have been the first two years of production, the IC was too big causing it to be inefficient and collecting moisture...causing the truck to not build boost and run rough. Ford has since corrected that. The only other problem that I have heard was driveshaft vibration from the two piece driveshafts, I have yet to hear a fix for that. I have several friends that have them and they all love them, with the exception of one friend, that the dealership can't seem to correct his drive shaft vibration problem.
well you've heard more problems now, because the troubles mentioned in this thread are first hand experiences.


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