2002 Camaro SS vs 2011 Mustang
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Don't let these guys stop you from posting up on here. They just don't like it when a Mustang beats a GM product and it being a V6 just added more salt to the wound.
Sit back and watch, some of these guys will give you some solid advice, you just have to pick through the sarcasm and hate to get it.
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What Heater just said... and
It doesn't matter what any of us think of Flowmaster exhaust for these cars... Flowmaster exhaust is NOT what caused him to get spanked by a V6 Mustang!
Maybe the Mustang in question has more mods than the owner said(some are in the 11's and even 10's now)? Maybe his car actually has a problem??? Whatever the case, no matter what else, he did NOT lose because of whatever losses in hp a Flowmaster gave his car!
It doesn't matter what any of us think of Flowmaster exhaust for these cars... Flowmaster exhaust is NOT what caused him to get spanked by a V6 Mustang!
Maybe the Mustang in question has more mods than the owner said(some are in the 11's and even 10's now)? Maybe his car actually has a problem??? Whatever the case, no matter what else, he did NOT lose because of whatever losses in hp a Flowmaster gave his car!
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OP, I agree with the others, that V6 Mustang is not making nowhere near 335 at the wheels with those mods. What is done to your Camaro to have 325whp? If all you have is a Flowmaster muffler or catback, what you think you have for wheel horsepower is way off. Definitely look into your trans since it has an issue not shifting correctly and causing the motor to bounce off the rev limiter. IMO, you lost so badly because there is an issue to work out with your car. Good luck!
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A) That car did NOT have anywhere close to 335whp. The highest I've seen a bolton car dyno is in the 320's, and that was on a very happy dyno IMO. I haven't had mine on the rollers in a while, but my dad's full bolton v6 put 305whp 290ish tq.
2) The fbody doesn't exactly have to be hurt to be outrun by one of these cars. But by more then a bumper-1/2 car with the mods listed, something is probably 'wrong' with the 'fish.
Sounds like its time for another rebuild on that 4l60 OP.
Edit: You say the 6er was a 6speed, but a6 or m6? I HIGHLY doubt it was a m6 with 4.10's. With a 4.24:1 1st gear in these v6 mt82's, first gear would be useless with 4.10s. So, if it was an auto car, it makes this death a little more, weird.
2) The fbody doesn't exactly have to be hurt to be outrun by one of these cars. But by more then a bumper-1/2 car with the mods listed, something is probably 'wrong' with the 'fish.
Sounds like its time for another rebuild on that 4l60 OP.
Edit: You say the 6er was a 6speed, but a6 or m6? I HIGHLY doubt it was a m6 with 4.10's. With a 4.24:1 1st gear in these v6 mt82's, first gear would be useless with 4.10s. So, if it was an auto car, it makes this death a little more, weird.
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Don't do that.....just fix your stuff and keep a open mind. A full bolt-on v6 stang like foolin ya could very well out run a ls1 car. Most don't run as good as his and your car is a little off. A solid running free mod fcar should give a a bolt-on v6 stang fits or out run it.
I don't mind a v6 stang outruns a fcar if everything is right. It just shows where technology is heading......pretty great IMO
This guys knows about the v6 stangs.......and for some reason he has been a thorn in the v8 Mustang guy's side.
Don't let these guys stop you from posting up on here. They just don't like it when a Mustang beats a GM product and it being a V6 just added more salt to the wound.
Sit back and watch, some of these guys will give you some solid advice, you just have to pick through the sarcasm and hate to get it.
Sit back and watch, some of these guys will give you some solid advice, you just have to pick through the sarcasm and hate to get it.
A) That car did NOT have anywhere close to 335whp. The highest I've seen a bolton car dyno is in the 320's, and that was on a very happy dyno IMO. I haven't had mine on the rollers in a while, but my dad's full bolton v6 put 305whp 290ish tq.
2) The fbody doesn't exactly have to be hurt to be outrun by one of these cars. But by more then a bumper-1/2 car with the mods listed, something is probably 'wrong' with the 'fish.
Sounds like its time for another rebuild on that 4l60 OP.
Edit: You say the 6er was a 6speed, but a6 or m6? I HIGHLY doubt it was a m6 with 4.10's. With a 4.24:1 1st gear in these v6 mt82's, first gear would be useless with 4.10s. So, if it was an auto car, it makes this death a little more, weird.
2) The fbody doesn't exactly have to be hurt to be outrun by one of these cars. But by more then a bumper-1/2 car with the mods listed, something is probably 'wrong' with the 'fish.
Sounds like its time for another rebuild on that 4l60 OP.
Edit: You say the 6er was a 6speed, but a6 or m6? I HIGHLY doubt it was a m6 with 4.10's. With a 4.24:1 1st gear in these v6 mt82's, first gear would be useless with 4.10s. So, if it was an auto car, it makes this death a little more, weird.
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OP I would honestly rebuild your trans and either put a 3600 stall or a 4000 stall in it and also put 3:73 gears in your 10 bolt. those two will wake up your car and it will be a night and day difference. Plus your foundation will be stronger once you decide to upgrade the motor.
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I was going to say sounds like you need a driver mod, but realized you are redlining on an A4, so sounds like you need some maintenance done.
Truth. I agree with this post.
LMAO Truth
Sounds like it might be happening then.
We win some, we lose some, and expect the backlash ANY time you post on here. Its the norm.
Agreed. Although, I don't think it needs to be hiding a shot against a z28 with a bad trans.
This, with 4.10s instead. LOL
LMAO Truth
We win some, we lose some, and expect the backlash ANY time you post on here. Its the norm.
Agreed. Although, I don't think it needs to be hiding a shot against a z28 with a bad trans.
OP I would honestly rebuild your trans and either put a 3600 stall or a 4000 stall in it and also put 3:73 gears in your 10 bolt. those two will wake up your car and it will be a night and day difference. Plus your foundation will be stronger once you decide to upgrade the motor.
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lol 4:10's hell yea then he can get a bigger cam and better flowing heads to put his power band around the 4k rpm rang if everything matches up just right he should be sitting just fine but he has got to get his trans and rear end built first those 60E trans break constantly, trust me i know
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It also depends on the series as all Flowmasters weren't created equal. Below is a dyno sheet for my car when it had a Mufflex 4" kit with a...wait for it...Flowmaster 30 series muffler.
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OP I would honestly rebuild your trans and either put a 3600 stall or a 4000 stall in it and also put 3:73 gears in your 10 bolt. those two will wake up your car and it will be a night and day difference. Plus your foundation will be stronger once you decide to upgrade the motor.
lol 4:10's hell yea then he can get a bigger cam and better flowing heads to put his power band around the 4k rpm rang if everything matches up just right he should be sitting just fine but he has got to get his trans and rear end built first those 60E trans break constantly, trust me i know ![Sad](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_sad.gif)
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If one wants the Flowmaster sound but is concerned with flow, that's nothing a simple $50 cut-out can't fix. Besides, I don't think there has ever been a concrete test to compare Flowmaster cat-backs to other LS1 kits, so we really don't know how restrictive they are, or if at all. They definitely flow better than a stock base muffler that's for sure.
It also depends on the series as all Flowmasters weren't created equal. Below is a dyno sheet for my car when it had a Mufflex 4" kit with a...wait for it...Flowmaster 30 series muffler.
![](http://s13.postimg.org/qy108r677/tmp_Jay_s_02_SOMTAgraph1838999065.jpg)
It also depends on the series as all Flowmasters weren't created equal. Below is a dyno sheet for my car when it had a Mufflex 4" kit with a...wait for it...Flowmaster 30 series muffler.
![](http://s13.postimg.org/qy108r677/tmp_Jay_s_02_SOMTAgraph1838999065.jpg)