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Old 01-16-2014, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by evangto87
Those were even worse. But its 2014. Ls1 heads by todays standards are still junk.

OMG!!!!!! YEEeHAW!
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Originally Posted by big hammer
5.0's are fine, but over hyped in a huge way.
Kinda like ls in general.
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Originally Posted by automach1
Kinda like ls in general.
that makes no sense.
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Originally Posted by automach1
Kinda like ls in general.
Lol. I've got to hear this.
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inb4 6 second modular crap!
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Good race the Vette won as expected
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Originally Posted by automach1
Kinda like ls in general.

Yes, like the LS's in general.

Anybody that doesn't think the LS hasn't been over hyped is letting their brand/product loyalty blind them.
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They've been over hyped, but what do you expect? They're cheap, easy to get motors that can make and hold good power.
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I like turtles
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Originally Posted by big hammer
inb4 6 second modular crap!
Mad.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
ET and 60 ft only. And that was with another 330cfm head. Not a stock 241 head. And no my numbers arent off. Stock casting ls1 heads are junk. Theres a reason you cant even sell them for $50. Boss Dynoed and MPHed higher.
241's are fine. If notch would've finished his car you might've had a hard time getting away fro a set of 241's. Last time you posted head flow #'s you did it at a lift you can't get to with the furd head.


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Dumbshit, I'm saying I didn't remove safety equipment and door supports to make my car lighter Didn't say **** about factory weight, THAT's where my car is lighter. Not my own verjinya hackjob like yours. I could go out and run an 11.8 with this car and you'd eat your words but you'd still create more stipulations to discredit it.
You're a dumbass. I still have my door bars. Where do you come up with this ****?

Your not gonna go out and run a 11.8 n/a. You'll be lucky to get to a 12.8.

As I said.......*** hurt when a camaro get's near the weight of a fox. If you were smart you would do what the rest of the world is doin and put a LS in that tin can of a chassis.
Originally Posted by snake95
Who is squirming? You disqualify anybody's car if it doesn't meet your street car checklist, as dozens of other posters have pointed out as well. You have aftermarket parts on your car, and there are guys on here with stangs that do as well, now I'm not standing behind ANYBODY else's car, that's not me, but you cried when Heater commented about his power level and you just look like an idiot because your **** isn't all OEM either...and it irritates the ***** out of you when they're faster You're the guy we laugh at when you say a 10 min wheel/tire swap is more racecar than a faceplated transmission
Last I checked the fp'd t56 don't stop me from goin anywhere.......not even in the snow. But a set of slicks would.

Ask heater about his fp'd trans in his fox. You know the street car with no wipers.......and a Chevy hood.....lmao

I didn't cry about Heater's power. I simply made a truthful comment that he was looking for out of me.
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Congrats your brand new in 97 tech is superior to 60's Ford tech



LOL maybe GM gave you a little too much to work with and should have rationed it to last the f-body through 03-09 C wut I did thare?
60's????? WTF are you talking about? It took furd till 2011 to out run a ls1.
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LoL, I knew that Hio would have to come up with some excuse to discredit my Ford motor.



That head has got some kind of mental block, has to come up with excuses to discredit anything that goes against his one way thinking.
I didn't discredit it. I said what it is. There's not much ford left there. If you think the sbf is so great then you should use ford parts. I'm putting my money where my mouth is and using gm parts.
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Brb I'm gonna get a hole saw, electric water pump, and some plates for the bottom of my car. Rematch time after.
What's the plates for in the bottom of your floor?
Originally Posted by big hammer
how did those fords compare in 1997?
Not very ******* good.
Originally Posted by evangto87
Those were even worse. But its 2014. Ls1 heads by todays standards are still junk.
Not really........you would struggle with a solid full bolt on ls1.......in 2014. Last I checked it took more than a head to get down a race track.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I didn't discredit it. I said what it is. There's not much ford left there. If you think the sbf is so great then you should use ford parts. I'm putting my money where my mouth is and using gm parts.
Never seen you say **** to anybody that has a H/C/I GM. Who the hell here gives a **** about that besides you?
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Never seen you say **** to anybody that has a H/C/I GM. Who the hell here gives a **** about that besides you?
Well most gm h/c/i cars still have gm heads. Most furds don't. Why do you think that is?

Most don't run oe manufacturer cams......but I do. And when I cam my ls7 more than likely it will be with a gm cam.

Intakes can be everywhere. I went clean to 11.1 on a ls6 intake.
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JUUUUNNNNKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!FUUUUUURRRRDDDDDD!!!!!!!








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There old **** was junk. The new **** is pretty damn good though.
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Yup old 5.4 is junk lol dumbass
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Originally Posted by Heater
Yes, like the LS's in general.

Anybody that doesn't think the LS hasn't been over hyped is letting their brand/product loyalty blind them.
Heater, I like you man, but that is an audacious statement. Overhyped? Well, the LS started in production cars in '97 with a top NA output of 350/345. This reached a height of 405/400 in the end of the gen III engine production by '04. In this WHOLE time ford didn't have A motor to compete with it. In '06 the LS7 came along w/ 505 NA horsepower. Ford FiNALLY created a much heavier competitor in the S/C 5.4 for the Ford GT. The 5.0 is a nice NA motor, but give GM credit here. It took Ford 13 YEARS to have an NA motor to be competitive with the GM NA offerings. Not to mention, 2013 was the first time that Fords top engine offering out powered GM's top engine offering. Even the sun shines on a dogs *** every once in awhile.

I'd say the hype wasn't hype at all. More like production.
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Originally Posted by 427zm
Heater, I like you man, but that is an audacious statement. Overhyped? Well, the LS started in production cars in '97 with a top NA output of 350/345. This reached a height of 405/400 in the end of the gen III engine production by '04. In this WHOLE time ford didn't have A motor to compete with it. In '06 the LS7 came along w/ 505 NA horsepower. Ford FiNALLY created a much heavier competitor in the S/C 5.4 for the Ford GT. The 5.0 is a nice NA motor, but give GM credit here. It took Ford 13 YEARS to have an NA motor to be competitive with the GM NA offerings. Not to mention, 2013 was the first time that Fords top engine offering out powered GM's top engine offering. Even the sun shines on a dogs *** every once in awhile.

I'd say the hype wasn't hype at all. More like production.
Like I said this is a perfect example of the over hyped ls myth.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
241's are fine. If notch would've finished his car you might've had a hard time getting away fro a set of 241's. Last time you posted head flow #'s you did it at a lift you can't get to with the furd head.



You're a dumbass. I still have my door bars. Where do you come up with this ****?

Your not gonna go out and run a 11.8 n/a. You'll be lucky to get to a 12.8.

As I said.......*** hurt when a camaro get's near the weight of a fox. If you were smart you would do what the rest of the world is doin and put a LS in that tin can of a chassis.

Last I checked the fp'd t56 don't stop me from goin anywhere.......not even in the snow. But a set of slicks would.

Ask heater about his fp'd trans in his fox. You know the street car with no wipers.......and a Chevy hood.....lmao

I didn't cry about Heater's power. I simply made a truthful comment that he was looking for out of me.

60's????? WTF are you talking about? It took furd till 2011 to out run a ls1.

I didn't discredit it. I said what it is. There's not much ford left there. If you think the sbf is so great then you should use ford parts. I'm putting my money where my mouth is and using gm parts.

What's the plates for in the bottom of your floor?

Not very ******* good.


Not really........you would struggle with a solid full bolt on ls1.......in 2014. Last I checked it took more than a head to get down a race track.
Man.. you are going to have to be more clear... I am having issues determining if you like GM or Ford better...
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Well most gm h/c/i cars still have gm heads. Most furds don't. Why do you think that is?

Most don't run oe manufacturer cams......but I do. And when I cam my ls7 more than likely it will be with a gm cam.

Intakes can be everywhere. I went clean to 11.1 on a ls6 intake.
I don't care if it comes out of the Ford Racing or GM Performance Parts catalog, you know good and well I was talking about something other than stock. I don't care if it's a "replacement," or uses a factory casting, or if a tune isn't necessary. If it didn't come on your car, it didn't come on your car.


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