cam ls1 vs gt500 super snake!?!?!
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O ya vary true!!! Really? He just waved me next to him just to honk 3 times to say "Hi" an followed me up to 130?? Lol
its funny to my wife bought me a big rear window sticker for my car an not realy into all the stickers or trash talking on the road but might just half to put it on!!
( the only thing that runs good in a ford is the owners mouth). There's some truth to that sticker lol
its funny to my wife bought me a big rear window sticker for my car an not realy into all the stickers or trash talking on the road but might just half to put it on!!
( the only thing that runs good in a ford is the owners mouth). There's some truth to that sticker lol
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Nobody cares... People who HAD the cars at the time... did.
It's DIRECTLY from the article! I'm sure your goofy *** knows more about the car that Evan Smith was driving and writing about in 2002... today, having NEVER actually seen the car in person yourself, let alone examined it. You have an incredible knack for being a total dimwit.
Again, I quoted the article. I didn't just write something in bold. As for Bilstien, YOU said it didn't, but should've had Bilstien. The "package description" claims higher performance.
I added AN ENTIRE ARTICLE and the times are in it... The Camaro had its *** handed to it, PERIOD. Cobra ran .46 better, best vs. best, even with a missed gear...
It isn't like the Cobra didn't CONSISTENTLY run quicker, because it did indeed.
You're such a wannabe... TRYING desperately to live in the past, based on what you WANTED to have happen won't change anything. As we've all known for over a decade, the Cobra beat the Camaro silly.
Finally: If you read the article, you'll be able to see where it says the SS package on THAT car was $3,625.00(WU8 code) and $2,500.00(Z4C code) got the optional 35th Ann package. Then, if you know all you claim to know, you'll quickly be able to check with the GM "RPO" codes for those cars and then you'll be able to learn that THIS PACKAGE is listed as " "non-Chevy Mod. by SLP Engineering" and 11,191 were made(3,369 in 2002 and 1,971 like the one in the article). I got that from the site "Chevy-Camaro . com"
Looking around even more, I have seen only that, if the SS has the "High Performance Suspension," it is either Koni or Bilstein and nothing I've seen differentiates between the two.
I'm not a big SS fan personally, and never claimed to know all about them, UNLIKE YOU... Also unlike you, I took the time to check my facts against your dreams and it turns out my facts are indeed more accurate.
It's DIRECTLY from the article! I'm sure your goofy *** knows more about the car that Evan Smith was driving and writing about in 2002... today, having NEVER actually seen the car in person yourself, let alone examined it. You have an incredible knack for being a total dimwit.
Again, I quoted the article. I didn't just write something in bold. As for Bilstien, YOU said it didn't, but should've had Bilstien. The "package description" claims higher performance.
I added AN ENTIRE ARTICLE and the times are in it... The Camaro had its *** handed to it, PERIOD. Cobra ran .46 better, best vs. best, even with a missed gear...
It isn't like the Cobra didn't CONSISTENTLY run quicker, because it did indeed.
You're such a wannabe... TRYING desperately to live in the past, based on what you WANTED to have happen won't change anything. As we've all known for over a decade, the Cobra beat the Camaro silly.
Finally: If you read the article, you'll be able to see where it says the SS package on THAT car was $3,625.00(WU8 code) and $2,500.00(Z4C code) got the optional 35th Ann package. Then, if you know all you claim to know, you'll quickly be able to check with the GM "RPO" codes for those cars and then you'll be able to learn that THIS PACKAGE is listed as " "non-Chevy Mod. by SLP Engineering" and 11,191 were made(3,369 in 2002 and 1,971 like the one in the article). I got that from the site "Chevy-Camaro . com"
Looking around even more, I have seen only that, if the SS has the "High Performance Suspension," it is either Koni or Bilstein and nothing I've seen differentiates between the two.
I'm not a big SS fan personally, and never claimed to know all about them, UNLIKE YOU... Also unlike you, I took the time to check my facts against your dreams and it turns out my facts are indeed more accurate.
OH....you can't count....ok....I'll do it for you. The car in the article has 2 exhaust tips. The optional SLP exhaust had.....1.....2.......3.....4.......ding ding ding....we have a winner. I made it easy for you 2 dumbass's. All you had to do was pic the largest number.
(FYI) Another little fact is you could get center exit exhaust in 02 from SLP which would have had 2 large oval tips. Guess what the location of those were??????? I knew your comprehension sucked.....but damn. It's in the CENTER.
Where is the optional SLP black wing lid that was available in 02??? If you look at the pic of the engine on that car it has stock a Z28 lid.
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If you 2 are to stupid to look at the pics then I have to rest my case. Yes whoever wrote the article is wrong about the options the car had.......PERIOD. Just to make it simple for you 2 idiots. Can you 2 count??? If so then look at that article and count the exhaust exit tips.
OH....you can't count....ok....I'll do it for you. The car in the article has 2 exhaust tips. The optional SLP exhaust had.....1.....2.......3.....4.......ding ding ding....we have a winner. I made it easy for you 2 dumbass's. All you had to do was pic the largest number.
(FYI) Another little fact is you could get center exit exhaust in 02 from SLP which would have had 2 large oval tips. Guess what the location of those were??????? I knew your comprehension sucked.....but damn. It's in the CENTER.
Where is the optional SLP black wing lid that was available in 02??? If you look at the pic of the engine on that car it has stock a Z28 lid.
OH....you can't count....ok....I'll do it for you. The car in the article has 2 exhaust tips. The optional SLP exhaust had.....1.....2.......3.....4.......ding ding ding....we have a winner. I made it easy for you 2 dumbass's. All you had to do was pic the largest number.
(FYI) Another little fact is you could get center exit exhaust in 02 from SLP which would have had 2 large oval tips. Guess what the location of those were??????? I knew your comprehension sucked.....but damn. It's in the CENTER.
Where is the optional SLP black wing lid that was available in 02??? If you look at the pic of the engine on that car it has stock a Z28 lid.
Then call Evan Smith an idiot, because he wrote it. Sitting there feeling like a 5 foot tall giant may impress you, but to me, you fail all around. The only point I see as a possible question mark from you is about the lid. Of course, unlike you, pictures don't make an article for me, so I read the words and generally skimmed the photos as I went.
BEFORE YOU DO, however, you may want to go back to the link I shared and look over the pictures again..
ZERO PICTURES OF THE CAMARO EXHAUST, ya clown!
Of 30 photos, NONE show of any single part of the Camaros exhaust. NOT ONE! The closest thing to the rear exhaust ANY of those pictures shows is the "SS" badge on the right rear... Who's the "dumbass" now, sports fan?
You're an absolute idiot when you get emotional. You toss facts out the window and just share your generally worthless angry opinion and make the rest of the F-body community look bad while trying to come across as some tough guy while being a pip squeak.
Ultimately, you've proven too lazy or sorry to read the article and apparently too stupid to click the correct pictures as well. Get a clue... BRO!
Let it go... or I shall taunt you for a second time!
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I'm not pissed off... I'm just trying to make sure he pays attention... He's sitting lying to the public and telling others, including me, we're "dumbass's" and clearly hasn't got a strong clue what he's discussing.
Partly, I'm just tired of his angry nonsense. He'll go off over the internet and talk trash about anyone else and how their car should do what his does as if his is some earth shattering performance machine and it gets to a point where someone has to shut him down for awhile.
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"Having driven each iteration of the fourth-gen Camaro since its 1993 introduction, the SS was quite familiar. Every good point and bad point was accounted for. On the plus side of the ledger was the jet-fighter styling and the SS package (which gives you the higher output, 325-horse LS1 with ram induction, 17-inch wheels, an upgraded suspension and a low restriction, dual outlet exhaust, among other items)." The standard Z/28 got De Carbon monotube shocks. That's the company which invented them and Bilstein paid royalties for the rights to the design till like 1977. It was purchased in phases by DELPHI, completing acquisition in 1997. Somehow, you'll just throw out there, Bilstien is better... WHY? Because you've never heard of De Carbon? I'd bet on that.
Either way, these are the very same type of shock absorber and the article clearly states that SS got the upgrade... whatever that entails.
Either way, these are the very same type of shock absorber and the article clearly states that SS got the upgrade... whatever that entails.
Bilstiens were an option for SS cars, they didn't come standard with the "upgraded suspension" which consisted of basically the same thing the WS6 of the same year got (2mm bigger front swaybar, and "better valved" De carbon shocks compared to base, earlier years got different springs).
The DeCarbon shocks that came on these cars belong on a truck. The valving was a joke at best, and caused the cars to handle and ride horrible compared to the optional Bilsteins or even better the 1LE Koni equipped cars. So basically if the car had the upgraded bilstein suspension (hell, just the shocks alone) it would have been a different story. If it was a 1LE car, I would bet it would be full seconds ahead, they make that much of a difference (I have them).
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It's hard to call him an idiot, but someone will always find a way...
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