Camaro Z28 vs H/C 306ci Mustang
01-24-2014, 02:28 PM
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470 hp... no ****. If they're gonna lie about their power numbers, why lie by 100 hp or maybe even more? I'd guess that 306 has something like out-of-the-box Performer heads or the like, which are junk.
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01-25-2014, 05:06 PM
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It's posts like this which shows the amount of nut-huggerness. What would you have said if that SN-95 actually had a good heads/cam set-up that would've dragged that cammed Z28 down the road? Excuses along the lines of "there's something seriously wrong with the Z28 and/or driver couldn't have drove any worse" comments would've came out of the woodworks.
01-25-2014, 05:23 PM
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It's posts like this which shows the amount of nut-huggerness. What would you have said if that SN-95 actually had a good heads/cam set-up that would've dragged that cammed Z28 down the road? Excuses along the lines of "there's something seriously wrong with the Z28 and/or driver couldn't have drove any worse" comments would've came out of the woodworks.
01-26-2014, 01:11 AM
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It's posts like this which shows the amount of nut-huggerness. What would you have said if that SN-95 actually had a good heads/cam set-up that would've dragged that cammed Z28 down the road? Excuses along the lines of "there's something seriously wrong with the Z28 and/or driver couldn't have drove any worse" comments would've came out of the woodworks.
01-26-2014, 03:13 AM
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It's posts like this which shows the amount of nut-huggerness. What would you have said if that SN-95 actually had a good heads/cam set-up that would've dragged that cammed Z28 down the road? Excuses along the lines of "there's something seriously wrong with the Z28 and/or driver couldn't have drove any worse" comments would've came out of the woodworks.
Yep, I agree.
Most of the time on here, if you see me making excuses or acting like a nut hugger; I'm doing it on purpose, being a smart a$$.
Just my way of showing some people what hypocrisy looks like.
01-26-2014, 08:21 AM
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Good point MAC and yes that's true some of the Mustang crowd does the same, and I say the same to them.
Sometimes it really seems like a lot of LSx folks on here have absolutely no idea what a nice 302 heads/cam car can do. Back when I had my '89 notch a few guys in my crowd had heads & cam 302 or 306 Foxbodys which ran high 11s very low 12s n/a. And they all were nitrous cars on top of it. Not the usual crap you see here on SRK.
Sometimes it really seems like a lot of LSx folks on here have absolutely no idea what a nice 302 heads/cam car can do. Back when I had my '89 notch a few guys in my crowd had heads & cam 302 or 306 Foxbodys which ran high 11s very low 12s n/a. And they all were nitrous cars on top of it. Not the usual crap you see here on SRK.
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01-26-2014, 09:03 AM
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It's posts like this which shows the amount of nut-huggerness. What would you have said if that SN-95 actually had a good heads/cam set-up that would've dragged that cammed Z28 down the road? Excuses along the lines of "there's something seriously wrong with the Z28 and/or driver couldn't have drove any worse" comments would've came out of the woodworks.
01-26-2014, 09:09 AM
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It's posts like this which shows the amount of nut-huggerness. What would you have said if that SN-95 actually had a good heads/cam set-up that would've dragged that cammed Z28 down the road? Excuses along the lines of "there's something seriously wrong with the Z28 and/or driver couldn't have drove any worse" comments would've came out of the woodworks.
Not nuthugging.....just calling it like it is.
I'm saying even with a good a "good" h/c package on the mustang. Which apparently it had if it made 470hp. Or someone has there info off.
01-26-2014, 10:54 AM
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Yea man.....I expect a cam only car to pull harder on a 13.0 car. Just the way it is. A solid bolt-on car would've pulled it by atleast that much.
Not nuthugging.....just calling it like it is.
I'm saying even with a good a "good" h/c package on the mustang. Which apparently it had if it made 470hp. Or someone has there info off.
Not nuthugging.....just calling it like it is.
I'm saying even with a good a "good" h/c package on the mustang. Which apparently it had if it made 470hp. Or someone has there info off.
01-26-2014, 10:59 AM
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Good point MAC and yes that's true some of the Mustang crowd does the same, and I say the same to them.
Sometimes it really seems like a lot of LSx folks on here have absolutely no idea what a nice 302 heads/cam car can do. Back when I had my '89 notch a few guys in my crowd had heads & cam 302 or 306 Foxbodys which ran high 11s very low 12s n/a. And they all were nitrous cars on top of it. Not the usual crap you see here on SRK.
Sometimes it really seems like a lot of LSx folks on here have absolutely no idea what a nice 302 heads/cam car can do. Back when I had my '89 notch a few guys in my crowd had heads & cam 302 or 306 Foxbodys which ran high 11s very low 12s n/a. And they all were nitrous cars on top of it. Not the usual crap you see here on SRK.
01-26-2014, 12:19 PM
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But if it were a fox with no wr I would not expect it to go much faster than 13.0Besides this was a roll race. That leads to the ls1's advantage anyway. But yea....a 13.0 for a h/c 302 in a sn95 car is decent. But it should in no way keep up with a decent bolt-on ls1 car must less a cammed one.
01-26-2014, 12:36 PM
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A GT40/alphabet-cam car could probably run a 13.0, maybe even with stock gears. Any REAL H/C car will be significantly faster than that, and you know it. There's more hypocrisy; anybody that doesn't have every little mod you have "isn't really a bolt-on car," but you automatically go with the absolute worst H/C combo with the Mustang.
01-26-2014, 12:50 PM
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When did we start talking fox body's? But if it were a fox with no wr I would not expect it to go much faster than 13.0
Besides this was a roll race. That leads to the ls1's advantage anyway. But yea....a 13.0 for a h/c 302 in a sn95 car is decent. But it should in no way keep up with a decent bolt-on ls1 car must less a cammed one.
But if it were a fox with no wr I would not expect it to go much faster than 13.0Besides this was a roll race. That leads to the ls1's advantage anyway. But yea....a 13.0 for a h/c 302 in a sn95 car is decent. But it should in no way keep up with a decent bolt-on ls1 car must less a cammed one.
01-26-2014, 12:52 PM
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01-26-2014, 01:12 PM
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The Z28 had 4.10s and ET Streets...you act like it's running 3.42s and Goodyear Eagles or something.