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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by big hammer
reading and comprehension not your strong suit, Bro?
I want to hear from the OP because of his stupid outlandish comment ...
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 07:29 AM
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^wont happen
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by big hammer
the fbodies were the 2nd best selling car in their class when they were discontinued...



There was only two cars in that class at that time, Mustang's and F-bodies, so that means if you wasn't first, then you was last
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 08:10 AM
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by snake95
Awesome, so we can agree that F-bodies are 13.6-14.6 second cars. Magazine Times are pretty fair, right? See below.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ad-test-review

http://www.motorweek.org/reviews/roa...ntiac_trans_am

http://m.motortrend.com/wot/mt-then-...50-264307.html

Man oh man am I going to love to see him squirm out of this one.
The Evan Smith test????? Nough said
Originally Posted by Lawhead
Damn 33k for a loaded T/A

Weird Hio always uses prices when it comes to the 03 cobra lol

35k vs 33k

Hmmm
My car was $29 k. The same basic car started @ 21k. Could you option a Mustang to get to a crobro???? NO. It was a different model that started at a much higher price.
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Golly, never saw this coming
If it "underperformed"...what did other cars in it's class do?
They were not that imprssive bud.....face it. Even if they were furd made 300 of the. That means 300 of you turd furd guys could have a good run with us......while the rest of you got drug. I'll take those odds.
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C'mon Hio. I know you see it. You've posted in 2-3 other threads already.
You miss me?
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That's not the point at all. The point is his comment about mag times. If he found something wrong with the times I posted or made excuses, he would be contradicting something he said earlier.

He'd rather shoot his dick off than admit he's wrong.
I know you furd guys like to post glory runs. But up until very recently just about every furd I have seen under performs at the track when compared to the mags. The gm stuff I have been around typically over performs.
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Both f bodies disappeared because the Quebec plant had the contract to build them until at least 2017. GM desperately needed to close that plant but they couldn't while they were manufacturing f bodies. So they had to disappear until the plant was not only closed, but disposed of.
There were other reasons too. But they could've come up with something other than that junk *** SSR to fill in the gap. GTO's should've been a Chevelle. GM paid the price for not making a Camaro.
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by big hammer
You sure get upset easily still.
They're still wet behind the ears.......we have to nurture them.
Originally Posted by Mike Morris
How can anyone not like or appreciate a Cobra R? I don't care for new edge Mustangs but awesome car
I like and props to furd for building it. For what it was it was not very impressive.
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they're fine. I just have a hard time getting excited about an extremely limited production car that has almost no bearing to the real world or normal car enthusiasts. I feel the same way about the new z\28 as well.
This.

Like I said....for the 300 that got one....great. We will have a good run. The rest of you are getting mopped.
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
The Evan Smith test????? Nough said

My car was $29 k. The same basic car started @ 21k. Could you option a Mustang to get to a crobro???? NO. It was a different model that started at a much higher price.

They were not that imprssive bud.....face it. Even if they were furd made 300 of the. That means 300 of you turd furd guys could have a good run with us......while the rest of you got drug. I'll take those odds.

You miss me?

I know you furd guys like to post glory runs. But up until very recently just about every furd I have seen under performs at the track when compared to the mags. The gm stuff I have been around typically over performs.

There were other reasons too. But they could've come up with something other than that junk *** SSR to fill in the gap. GTO's should've been a Chevelle. GM paid the price for not making a Camaro.
Evan Smith tests are done at Etown and Atco. And when they prepped for MM&FF/High Tech they are so sticky they can pull your shoes off.

Cant compare an 03 Cobra to a 02 Fbody. Different years. Its a silly comparison.

Don't have a heart attack but this Cobra OVER performed according to people here....I always preached the 98s were faster and a 96-98 with a good driver should be any LT1 Fbody



https://ls1tech.com/articles/mw-1998...son-road-test/
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 09:41 AM
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Oh I've seen that. Furd threw a ringer out for test. Most of those things stuggled to break 100 with mods. Also thrashed a few of those. They ran no where near that good. Saying they could be a lt is a bit of a stretch. I would say they would be a good run for a lt.....with the edge goin to the lt.

I think a 03 cobro to ls is silly too. It's like comparing a Boss to a Camaro SS. Especially like they did in that one test where they used a 2yr old SS.
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 09:46 AM
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Lmfao at posting glory runs


Kinda like 99% of Fbodies ran mid 13s stock....
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
Lmfao at posting glory runs


Kinda like 99% of Fbodies ran mid 13s stock....

Isn't saying most fbods run mid 13 an accurate statement?
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by hugger1975
Isn't saying most fbods run mid 13 an accurate statement?
Not even close. Most LS1 F-bodies would, of course. However, when it's shown to Hio, it's "not so" because he's seen 1 do better. That's the point. He's doing his typical GM nut-huggin... Claiming that when a Ford is shown to run well, it's a ringer or a lie, but when an F-body is shown to run mid 13's, it's also crap because someone that knows someone he knows seems to remember seeing a completely stock version run 12's and therefore, they ALL run 12's... Not for nuthin' but... he knows better in his heart because neither of the 2 he's owned ever ran 12 anything when stock.

Law was merely pointing out Hio's obvious hypocrisy. 12's were less common from the F-body than 13.6's were from the 1996 Cobra. The difference is, Cobra and Ford owners in general, aren't hangers on to the a-typical and Hio and many like him(on this site) are.
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 12:17 PM
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LOL....12's were more common for a fcar then 13's was for a cobro of that era. There was a pile of those cars at my track. 13.8 was the fastest with mods back in the day. I would say bottom 13's is more accurate for fcars.....if well driven. Mine went 13.5 @ 108 first time to the track, august heat and with 2.2-2.3 60'. First time to the track for me in a stick car too. I had did a couple minor mods and only went to the track once when it was completely stock. No doubt the car had real low 13's in it bone stock. Knowing what I know now I would've went there with near a full tank of gas. She would'a hooked better.
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 12:22 PM
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What I said had nothing to do with the Cobra

But you'll get your shots in whenever you can....
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 12:54 PM
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I was replying to itdon'trun
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 01:04 PM
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Mine never did better then 13.5 in typical Chicago humidity on stock chrome 16s...lol.

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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 01:08 PM
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Fbodies were mid 13 second cars stock so you're right in there Hugger
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 01:26 PM
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Not to take sides... but this was a buddy of mines car. Had the slp catback and slp lid. Debatable if you want to call those parts stock or not. But they didnt offer any more power over the stock parts. His car made 313whp as it sat. Also on Cooper street tires. Managed a 1.77 60 ft on this pass. Funny part was the car behind him was a procharged 3v on mickey thompsons with a full exhaust and 4.10s lol.
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 01:30 PM
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Same car adding kooks headers, cut out, UD pulley, ls6 intake, 4.10s, DRs. Same track, same air. 3.90s would have trapped 115 with it as he was still on the stock GM tune and was hitting the limiter before the end of the track.



That was a fast car... and for the record. He got THRASHED by a stock 03 Z06.

EDIT: 3550 race weight and as you can hear... he could drive

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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 01:30 PM
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I'm sure everyone here knows they're kicking a dead horse and knows they arent going to sway either side. The main reason for getting a certain car is your personal style and what you like better.....not, oh this motor is a better platform to start with. After someone decides what they're going to get they can really give 2 ***** about you putting down their decision. It's what was more appealing to them and thats what they wanted. Just remember, YOU CAN MAKE ANYTHING FAST!

I feel some of you f-bod guys are stuck in 1 of 2 boats:
a) you really do like your car/platform and just want to re-iterate how much bang for the buck it is.
b) your car/platform is really all that you can afford at this time and makes the most sense to you to own it and affordably mod it. But then you have this chip on your shoulder that you must put down any other car/platform and you just cant believe why this person would buy anything else and they're stupid for getting something more expensive that doesnt do as well in the 1/4 mile. Your stuck into thinking that everyone's main consideration when getting a car is the 1/4 mile et

I think this group has the worst case of superiority complex by far. You want to beat your chests and let the world know that the ls motor is the cheapest bang for the buck motor out there and if you go with anything else your just stupid.

But if thats your thing thats your thing. I built plenty of cool **** that has butt raped plenty of cars but never tell someone else their car/platform is shitty.

People get cars for their personal preference......deal with it
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 01:33 PM
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So wait.......A lid and catback don't offer any power vs stock Fbody stuff?
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