The 600hp ZL1 but hey...

 

The argument started before that

And on the ZL1 thing my ego isn't too big to admit I was wrong

How about yours

 

What the OP said about the coyote completely contradicts what you said tho? lol

So the coyote makes more NA power than the ZL1 right?

 

It completely contradict what HE SAID himself

Asking where NA Ford has been since 97 then answers his own question ....with the coyote, I was just educating him Ford did it before than too ...

 

Awesome, so we can agree that F-bodies are 13.6-14.6 second cars. Magazine Times are pretty fair, right? See below.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ad-test-review

http://www.motorweek.org/reviews/roa...ntiac_trans_am

http://m.motortrend.com/wot/mt-then-...50-264307.html

Man oh man am I going to love to see him squirm out of this one.

 

Damn 33k for a loaded T/A

Weird Hio always uses prices when it comes to the 03 cobra lol

35k vs 33k

Hmmm

 

lmao i know, ***** retarded.

 

I still want to know why they stopped making T/As since they were so badass

 

Golly, never saw this coming
If it "underperformed"...what did other cars in it's class do?

 

I think some one on here posted about that, forgot who. I have no clue though. It would've been a turd regardless, look at the 5th gen.

 

Easy choice - Cobra all day every day.

 

I just want to hear from the OP on the subject I'm sure he's gonna contradict himself....

 

lolllll

 

C'mon Hio. I know you see it. You've posted in 2-3 other threads already.

 

Because Pontiac wanted to take their image in a different direction which the firebird contradicted.

 

You forgot the MM&FF article where Evan J Smith ran 12s in the Fbody to be fair lol

Then again when he drives a car it is no longer stock lmao

 

That's not the point at all. The point is his comment about mag times. If he found something wrong with the times I posted or made excuses, he would be contradicting something he said earlier.

He'd rather shoot his dick off than admit he's wrong.

 

If that were the case why did both Fbodies disappear.... Pontiac , Buick etc isn't like it used to be with all their "Own" type things like back in the day with the 455O 455B and 454C days .... It's just body panels and **** now that makes them different ...

 

Poor Hammer sweating to give answers

 

Both f bodies disappeared because the Quebec plant had the contract to build them until at least 2017. GM desperately needed to close that plant but they couldn't while they were manufacturing f bodies. So they had to disappear until the plant was not only closed, but disposed of.