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Old 07-02-2014, 10:58 PM
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The old 455 runs pretty good!
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Wait, since when does Hammer have a car....???
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allow me to re iterate. he's shifting 500 rpm past redline. could be 6500, 7500, I don't know. whatever it is shifting that car 500 rpm past whatever homo rpm it's supposed to be made a big difference.
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Originally Posted by MACHXLR8
+1!!!!!
With a tune you would want to set that at a maximum of 7K just for safety. What tuner would even allow the motor to rev to 7500?

Anyway, I thought a basically stock 70 455ci T/A would be running low 14s unless there was some other mods done. If that was the case, that Cobra was not moving well at all.
it's actually not a "stock" 455 ho. I said that for laymens reasons. it's a forged stroked 400 (same bore and stroke as stock 455 but the block is stronger) mildly ported 1970 455HO #64 heads ( D port, not the more desired round port), 3 tube headers, Q jet, roller valve train with mild cam. all tuned by me including the carb. (I actually like Q jets)

biggest thing holding the car back is the close ratio M21 (which just blew up) because I put 3.23 gears in the rear so I could cruise with it nicely down the highway at 70 mph. but with the close ratio trans with it's 2.2:1 1st gear I can pull 60+ mph out of 1st gear. so it's either bog or burn. going to work on that now.

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Originally Posted by islander033
Tyler blowing trannies is nothing new.

Good pull!
true actually. I smashed the trans out of the 02 last year!
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cobra gears 3.37 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.67 with 4.10 final

t\a gears 2.2:1, 1.64:1, 1.27:1, and 1:1 with 3.23 final

I had DR's on the 455 and it was almost worse. just tortured the clutch. so that wouldn't have helped at all.
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Originally Posted by assasinator
you are a shitbag. that trans am is not.

seems to run good for its age.

I built a 68 trans am ram air 400 for a friend in Clarksville that ran better than the vettes and 5.0's of its day...ie 1990ish. his stripper girlfriend destroyed the car a short while after I returned it to him.
what # ram air? 2,3 or 4?
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Looks like the front end was coming way up on the TA, could probably use some suspension attention
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its been too long to remember the details about the engine, but i dont recall it having double valve springs. certainly don't remember the head details. it was an automatic car and i converted it to HEI. dark green. i remember being scared to scratch the original paint.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
allow me to re iterate. he's shifting 500 rpm past redline. could be 6500, 7500, I don't know. whatever it is shifting that car 500 rpm past whatever homo rpm it's supposed to be made a big difference.
I lol'd on that

inb4 497rpm past peak is actually optimal.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
it's actually not a "stock" 455 ho. I said that for laymens reasons. it's a forged stroked 400 (same bore and stroke as stock 455 but the block is stronger) mildly ported 1970 455HO #64 heads ( D port, not the more desired round port), 3 tube headers, Q jet, roller valve train with mild cam. all tuned by me including the carb. (I actually like Q jets) biggest thing holding the car back is the close ratio M21 (which just blew up) because I put 3.23 gears in the rear so I could cruise with it nicely down the highway at 70 mph. but with the close ratio trans with it's 2.2:1 1st gear I can pull 60+ mph out of 1st gear. so it's either bog or burn. going to work on that now.
So your heads/Cammed 455 lost to a lowly 281 Ford??? Wow.

I'm kidding. Sucks about your tranny, the hobby of constant fixing. I get mad every time I see your cars because I like them all. Makes it harder to argue with you
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Originally Posted by snake95
So your heads/Cammed 455 lost to a lowly 281 Ford??? Wow.

I'm kidding. Sucks about your tranny, the hobby of constant fixing. I get mad every time I see your cars because I like them all. Makes it harder to argue with you
lol thanks Sean. yeah it sucks about the trans. but now i'll just build it the way I want it now. ultimately I would like a Richmond 5 speed in it. we'll see.
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and yeah the suspension needs all new bushings. it gets freakin squirrely around 120 mph!
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Originally Posted by big hammer
it's actually not a "stock" 455 ho. I said that for laymens reasons. it's a forged stroked 400 (same bore and stroke as stock 455 but the block is stronger) mildly ported 1970 455HO #64 heads ( D port, not the more desired round port), 3 tube headers, Q jet, roller valve train with mild cam. all tuned by me including the carb. (I actually like Q jets)

biggest thing holding the car back is the close ratio M21 (which just blew up) because I put 3.23 gears in the rear so I could cruise with it nicely down the highway at 70 mph. but with the close ratio trans with it's 2.2:1 1st gear I can pull 60+ mph out of 1st gear. so it's either bog or burn. going to work on that now.
OK..I got ya. Sounds like some nice mods on the T/A. Just get the trans and suspension issues worked out and it sounds like you will have a sweet ride.
Race him again after the trans is built. It looks as thought you will pull on him based on that last race.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I lol'd on that

inb4 497rpm past peak is actually optimal.
Lolz. 497.6
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Originally Posted by MACHXLR8
OK..I got ya. Sounds like some nice mods on the T/A. Just get the trans and suspension issues worked out and it sounds like you will have a sweet ride.
Race him again after the trans is built. It looks as thought you will pull on him based on that last race.

I think it will, but I'm keeping this car on street tires. I only intended it to be a cruiser hence the mild engine build. As far as I can tell it's around a mid 13 second car at 106 ish mph.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
allow me to re iterate. he's shifting 500 rpm past redline. could be 6500, 7500, I don't know. whatever it is shifting that car 500 rpm past whatever homo rpm it's supposed to be made a big difference.
Lulz!
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Originally Posted by big hammer
I think it will, but I'm keeping this car on street tires. I only intended it to be a cruiser hence the mild engine build. As far as I can tell it's around a mid 13 second car at 106 ish mph.
What's it do 60 to 130?
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Originally Posted by big hammer
I think it will, but I'm keeping this car on street tires. I only intended it to be a cruiser hence the mild engine build. As far as I can tell it's around a mid 13 second car at 106 ish mph.
You mean someone on the Hio crew built a mild car instead of doing all the right bolt ons first I think according to your higher ups you're doing it all wrong

Doug be disappoint


On a better note I think it's just fine to do what you did with the car a 455 was the first thing I ever worked on just in Oldsmobile form we have a motor in the garage back home that pushed a boat cutlass to a 12.20 at 106-107 back in the 90s cam, carb and intake with some roller rockers is all it had lol
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
You mean someone on the Hio crew built a mild car instead of doing all the right bolt ons first I think according to your higher ups you're doing it all wrong

Doug be disappoint


On a better note I think it's just fine to do what you did with the car a 455 was the first thing I ever worked on just in Oldsmobile form we have a motor in the garage back home that pushed a boat cutlass to a 12.20 at 106-107 back in the 90s cam, carb and intake with some roller rockers is all it had lol
pretty hard to maximize a 220 crank hp engine in a 3800 pound car


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