I said it about that 5th gen z28 losing to the hell cat and a supercharged 5.0 and I'll say it again here.... Ford didn't build a GT350 to go in a straight line, they built it to go fast around a road course. I'd also wager that if you put that 8 speed auto in the GT350 it'd out run the SS?

 

Gt500 would need a 4500 stall from factory otherwise it would have a 2.8 60'

 

That's where terminology comes in. Mustangs, Camaros, Challengers, they have never been muscle cars they are all pony cars. T/A cars that do twisties. Not straight line powerhouses like Chargers, Chevelles, Galaxies, Torinos, etc.

The next time I decide to race some GT350 on a mountain range, I'll have to remember this.

 

Serious or just wasting my time ?

Even with the PP a 1ss beats the mustang in every way easily.

So exactly what clarification do you need to understand that a base GT with 18 inch all seasons and no brakes holds a candle to the standard SS in any way?

Accept it and move on. This round goes to the camaro. Ford will respond and so on. Good times man.

 

This hurts me like Hell to say bc I'm more of a Mustang guy than a Camaro guy but yessir, this here statement is very true. Ford will rebound in 2018 or so. 1993-2010 gm was the denominator (the 03/04 Cobra was an exception), 2011-2014 Ford took the torch for victory, 2015 was more of a drivers race with the slight edge to the 5.0.

2016 is hands down 6th gen.

 

Idk, I've never seen a test done with a base car but straight line wise a base is quicker. You seem to be quite the track day Lauguna Seca/ Autocrosser yourself.

No brakes!?
Have you ever seen a base GT's brakes? I guess 4piston calipers with 14" rotors is no brakes now a days. Lol

I have no problem submitting the Camaro is an awesome/ better car. But blown out of the water, I'll have to see that for myself.

 

If you haven't seen the gap in metrics between the '16 S550 and the 6th gen, you are not looking.

Plenty of tests out there already. What's the hero run for an S550 anyway in the 1/4. Within a month, a base 6th gen has gone 11.9...

BTW, he's not saying the base GT doesn't have adequate brakes, they just aren't comparable the the standard equipment on a 6th gen. Get over it, Ford will respond, they always do.

 

Base mustangs don't have 4 piston calipers. Those are optional and come on track pak cars. Which is not even available in a auto.

Before you throw out you may want to know wtf you are talkin about.

5gen and 5br0 was a drivers races. Even if you give the 5br0 a edge in a straight line it got thrashed un handling. 6gen smoothers the 5br0 in performance errywhere......that = blown out of water.

 

No, I haven't seen the "gap" because I am not looking. What am I going to do, run out and buy another new car because it outperforms another? I'll be doing that A lot In that case. Lol

Oh I know they're adequate, and how could they ever match up to the Camaro SS's standard 4piston caliper 13.6" rotors I'll never know. Must be some good pads in there.

Is it a good car yes, is it a reenactment of Hiroshima on the s550 like all of you make it out to be? Idk, I'll have to test that for myself.

This is my first Ford, so I'm not partial too it in any way. I hate when people with there head pointed forward and no peripheral vision bash one car or another because it's not they're brand of choice.

 

It doesn't have 4piston 14" rotors huh?

I mean, I don't own one or anything. Lol
You might want to do a little reading there Doug. The PP Brembo cars have 6piston calipers...

 

I am a camaro guy and have been forever. But mustangs are still cool cars. It's not like just because the new Camaro is amazing doesn't mean the 5.0 is ****

Do i like the new body absolutely not in stock form. But I met a guy with a Valence and a splitter added in back and front respectively that looked so good I would absolutely rock it. It was one cool looking car

 

2V guys had their head in the sand just as much...

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...rd-mustang-gt/

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test

http://www.motortrend.com/news/2016-...rd-mustang-gt/

And these are just mag tests. BTW, nice CBR

 

Yeah you're so right because its not like the 11-14 5.0 wasn't overhyped or anything....

 

I had a H/C 4th gen SS at that time. I know how hyped it was, but I wouldn't fanboy my favorite makers car because the guys with the other brand did it first.

 

lol at the GM guys that now don't want to talk about turning performance when that was all they would talk about when it was the SS, ZL1, z28 getting waxed by the Ford variants. This place is always good for the lol's.

 

Feel you on this.

 

What's not to talk about with the 6th gen. It handles awesome and it accelerates awesome... Guess I don't get it...

GT has only 13.0 in the back even with PP. And it's a heavier car. Besides that's not the only thing that will determine how good the brakes are.

My heads not in the sand. It's pretty simple to understand. Some will accept it and some won't. I know exactly what the cars are capable of. Have driven and raced a few. I have no experience with the new Camaro. I ran a road course once. I'm most concerned with driving feel in the new car. Mine felt numb.
I have to be Mario Andretti to discuss handling ? Ok got it
Btw the car that went 11.9 stock on stock tires was no base car...

It was a loaded 2ss with hardly and miles on it and a 225 lb driver. It also had the larger front brake option.

I believe we will see around 11.7 stock hero run.

And again lol at price with mods argument...

Must be an idiot to buy a GT. An ecoboost with a tune will run right with one lmao.

 

What's funny about a 6th gen SS out-handling and braking the S550 GT with any PP package or not?

 

You seem to be very passionate about the subject is why I say you must own your own pit area at a road course track. You don't have to explain anything to me either about either car. I'd like to think I have a handle on it.

BTW my car 3640lbs on a 4corner pro scale, how heavy was the 6th gen you weighed?

My point is it's not a blowout like you all say it is. I don't see what your point is I guess. You want to tell me now that GM has released the 6th Gen I bought and own an inferior pos?

Well thanks, I guess. Im sure you feel better now.

 

It's literally a blow out