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Old 03-29-2016, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Lol.. and it took 3000lbs for Notch's car to even compete with a LBO 5.0
Notch's car had about the same wr as you.
Originally Posted by NateLS1Mustang
Coming from the Downplay Prodigy himself.
I don't downplay anything. You simply don't like the truth.
Originally Posted by marc97taws6
What are we downplaying?

Poppa got emailed a tune, he hooked a handheld tuner up to his computer and loaded the tune onto the handheld, he plugged the handheld tuner into his car and loaded the tune, he went to the gas station, inserted his card of choice, selected the fuel of choice, lifted the handle, and gassed up his car. After he was done gassing up, he returned the nozzle and went on his merry way and took his receipt.

Pretty simple if you ask me.
You're downplaying e85.

Poppa has flex fuel.....a sensor woukd be needed for that also. You also downplay how much e85 helps.
Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Lol!!!!! If anything we learned from the best Mr. Downplay shady mod master
Nothing shady here. Hell you guys used to resight my mids lime it was your bible.
Originally Posted by big hammer
All your your Br0 need e85 with 11's
Troof
Originally Posted by Blown383LS1
Are we really comparing trap times between 6 speeds and stock stall autos?
Aggressively geared auto....sure why not? There us only 17yrs of difference.
Originally Posted by 99peweterls1
Oo yea? What does hammer trap in the 1/4 then? Oo wait.. Lol
Well if notch's car picked up 25 on the back half like it did. And hammer's car is faster than his then we would be looking at 120+ for hammer easily.
Originally Posted by 99peweterls1
The only thing light about these bolt on 4th gens being compared to a coyote is their race weight and drivetrain inertia. The mods list from stock would be a book compared to Poppa's sticky note.
But none need a scarce fuel like the 5br0
Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Yes.. they do downplay their mods... quite a bit. alot of work went into their mods and weight reduction. maybe I will start a Post Your current scale weight thread... Im sure they wont post in it.

If they ran the same raceweight I do, it would be like my car running a Prius
I've posted my weight plenty. You guys cry about it.

Keep downplaying e85. That's the only downplay goin on here.

Can we run the same trans too? I'm sure the coyite would be great with a a4 and normal type gearing behind it.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Notch's car had about the same wr as you.

I don't downplay anything. You simply don't like the truth.

You're downplaying e85.

Poppa has flex fuel.....a sensor woukd be needed for that also. You also downplay how much e85 helps.

Nothing shady here. Hell you guys used to resight my mids lime it was your bible.

Troof

Aggressively geared auto....sure why not? There us only 17yrs of difference.

Well if notch's car picked up 25 on the back half like it did. And hammer's car is faster than his then we would be looking at 120+ for hammer easily.

But none need a scarce fuel like the 5br0


I've posted my weight plenty. You guys cry about it.

Keep downplaying e85. That's the only downplay goin on here.

Can we run the same trans too? I'm sure the coyite would be great with a a4 and normal type gearing behind it.
How can you even say something like that without feeling like a total ******* dumbass. You're the biggest hypocrite on this entire forum, probably on the entire Internet.

Wanna know some truth? Poppa can put E85 in his car and all he needed was a tune to do it, that's the truth you big *****.
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
I am debating setups. Might go FBO with a F1A Procharger, then put twins on a built motor



What do you trap? That can give us a good indication of how our run would go.
Dunno, I haven't been to the track since I was bone stock and I ran a 12.1 @117 stock. I'd say I'm somewhere in the 11s now.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
You're downplaying e85. You also downplay how much e85 helps.
Real world results that I've seen first hand with friends and acquaintances, e85 picks up 7-12rwhp over 91 octane here on a dedicated e85 tune and picks up maybe a tenth at most, being the only change on the car.

These are first hand, eye witness, real world results. Not crap I've seen on an internet forum.

I didn't really notice much of a difference, as I expected with the butt dyno. Another real world, first-hand result.

Poppa will pick up less since his tune isn't a dedicated e85 tune. Poppa would also pick up more power than the maybe 7-10rwhp tops he got from the flex fuel e85 tune deleting cats from his car or replacing the resonators with straight pipes.
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Coyote torque doesn't impress me mod for mod.. If I had a car that heavy I'd want more tq, they seem to make more hp than tq though..so odd.
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I want Mappins back...

April Fools on March 29th lol!
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Originally Posted by Realizer
Coyote torque doesn't impress me mod for mod.. If I had a car that heavy I'd want more tq, they seem to make more hp than tq though..so odd.
Different manufacturers and motors make their power in different ways and different power bands.

But yes, a Coyote motor and 6r80 transmission in a light platform like a base ~3200lb C6 would perform well.
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Speaking as someone with a 3,220lbs car...




It's not enough.
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Originally Posted by Realizer
Speaking as someone with a 3,220lbs car...




It's not enough.
Man, I've been driving around a naturally aspirated 06 Pontiac Grand Prix since November.

Damn near anything v8 rwd sounds nice right about now.

Can't wait to pick my car up from storage
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I wish I could run e85 on everything. I just like to drive everywhere with all my cars and you can not always find it.. I do not know if it is possible on holefish to run two tunes using stock ecu.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
I wish I could run e85 on everything. I just like to drive everywhere with all my cars and you can not always find it.. I do not know if it is possible on holefish to run two tunes using stock ecu.
It's all over the place here. Easier for me to find e85 than 91 and especially 93.

I was going to use it on the 98 TA build with the Holley HP ecu setup.

Love my car now though so glad things ended up as they did.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
I wish I could run e85 on everything. I just like to drive everywhere with all my cars and you can not always find it.. I do not know if it is possible on holefish to run two tunes using stock ecu.
As cheap as you can get a LS1 pcm just buy a used one and get a E85 setup in one. You probably already know how easy it is to get to a PCM in those cars.
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Originally Posted by NateLS1Mustang
How can you even say something like that without feeling like a total ******* dumbass. You're the biggest hypocrite on this entire forum, probably on the entire Internet.

Wanna know some truth? Poppa can put E85 in his car and all he needed was a tune to do it, that's the truth you big *****.
You stupid ****.....you don't even have a car and you're on here yakkin. Now that would/should make you feel like a dumbass

Poppa has flex fuel.......ever heard of a flex fuel sensor dumbass?
Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Real world results that I've seen first hand with friends and acquaintances, e85 picks up 7-12rwhp over 91 octane here on a dedicated e85 tune and picks up maybe a tenth at most, being the only change on the car.

These are first hand, eye witness, real world results. Not crap I've seen on an internet forum.

I didn't really notice much of a difference, as I expected with the butt dyno. Another real world, first-hand result.

Poppa will pick up less since his tune isn't a dedicated e85 tune. Poppa would also pick up more power than the maybe 7-10rwhp tops he got from the flex fuel e85 tune deleting cats from his car or replacing the resonators with straight pipes.
More downplay i see. Peak # does not always tell the tale.
Originally Posted by Realizer
Coyote torque doesn't impress me mod for mod.. If I had a car that heavy I'd want more tq, they seem to make more hp than tq though..so odd.
They feel odd to me. Kinda flat feeling. Very uninspiring
Originally Posted by Mike Morris
I wish I could run e85 on everything. I just like to drive everywhere with all my cars and you can not always find it.. I do not know if it is possible on holefish to run two tunes using stock ecu.
I would run it to....some. it's very inefficient tho. My suspicion is we will start to see less of it. It takes more energy to make it then you get out of it.
Originally Posted by marc97taws6
It's all over the place here. Easier for me to find e85 than 91 and especially 93.

I was going to use it on the 98 TA build with the Holley HP ecu setup.

Love my car now though so glad things ended up as they did.
None near me. Lots of threads on here about peoplw that doesn't have it near them either.
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Yup, we concluded that a 3300lb 360hp car with some gear can keep up with a 3800lb 400hp car. Woohoo
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
More downplay i see. Peak # does not always tell the tale.

None near me. Lots of threads on here about peoplw that doesn't have it near them either.
I'm just telling you real world results. Not stuff I've seen on an Internet forum. Take it for what it is worth. It has been worth maybe a tenth and 1-1.5mph. To me, for $50, that's still well worth it.

As far as the second quoted paragraph - that's not my problem.
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Originally Posted by Realizer
Dunno, I haven't been to the track since I was bone stock and I ran a 12.1 @117 stock. I'd say I'm somewhere in the 11s now.
Well, if you trapped 117 and have more mods now, I would say you would win if we ran
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12.1@117 is a strong time for a stock ls3 a6 c6

Most I've seen around here are closer to mid 12's @113-114


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