Poppacap vs mappins!
#822
Aparently you have a hard time comprehending that when the car was nearer to full weight than you are right now it went faster than you with out even a dr on it
The only real wr notche's ls1 had was a drag pack , the cat back and a light battery. So roughly similar to you.....and goin similar speeds. No doubt it would gap you on the roll to.
5br0 are not that impressive. They only caught up to 2002.
The only real wr notche's ls1 had was a drag pack , the cat back and a light battery. So roughly similar to you.....and goin similar speeds. No doubt it would gap you on the roll to.
5br0 are not that impressive. They only caught up to 2002.
Hmm.. in -1300DA at that... So he needed 2100ft less DA than me to go the same ET I did. Wow... I am impressed. Man.... imagine what I could do in -1300ft DA.... Sweet! Oh, and keep thinking I am FBO... and not LBO... if it makes you feel more like a winner.
#824
#825
#826
Wrong. You are as shady about notche's car as you are about yours. Poor Hio. He jelly that the LS motors need a lightweight car to go fast.
Your car on E85 wouldn't even go as fast as they are. You think I am wrong? prove it and go faster... quit whining about fuel that you choose not to run. You seem to like this NA stuff too.... fine.. stay NA... stay slower with the other NA guys.
Hmm.. in -1300DA at that... So he needed 2100ft less DA than me to go the same ET I did. Wow... I am impressed. Man.... imagine what I could do in -1300ft DA.... Sweet! Oh, and keep thinking I am FBO... and not LBO... if it makes you feel more like a winner.
Your car on E85 wouldn't even go as fast as they are. You think I am wrong? prove it and go faster... quit whining about fuel that you choose not to run. You seem to like this NA stuff too.... fine.. stay NA... stay slower with the other NA guys.
Hmm.. in -1300DA at that... So he needed 2100ft less DA than me to go the same ET I did. Wow... I am impressed. Man.... imagine what I could do in -1300ft DA.... Sweet! Oh, and keep thinking I am FBO... and not LBO... if it makes you feel more like a winner.
Lol....I'm the fastest 5br0 on pump on their list and out mph all of them with me on pump.
Hell i don't even have race brakes like the top ones.
Poppa has a drag pak and other wr. He is likely 100+lb lighter than stock.
#827
My car full weight put down barely over 390rwhp, ran 11.80's @116 with 2.73's 1.77 60' and 11.60-11.70's @117 with 3.42's a 1.72 60' iirc and tune in check.
I know this isn't exact, but usually
100lbs = .1 tenth/1 car length in a 1/4 mi.
10rwhp = .1 tenth/1 car length in a 1/4 mi.
So 10rwhp to make up for every 100lbs.
I know it isn't exact, but it's in the ballpark to figure out roughly what you need to make up the weight difference. That being said, say my car weighed 100lbs less than yours and by the average, You'd need 10rwhp to make up that difference. Or even say You're 200lbs heavier (which I highly doubt that), then I was at 390rwhp vs your 420rwhp? (not sure what you are, just guessing)
With 2.73's it would put us pretty dead even, definitely a drivers race. But with the 3.42's and my tune in check, I still would have ran a better time. I know this is all speculation and doesn't amount to anything, but I'm bringing it up as a comparison to show that it can be done with close to the same weight and in my case, a little less power.
Just food for thought, no wars or taking sides.
Edit: DA was 1171 with the 2.73's run and I'm trying to find the slip for the 3.42's. I believe it was 96x DA
Last edited by Deeohgie69; 04-10-2016 at 05:36 PM.
#828
#830
Im6not shady about either car. I don't care enough to be.
Lol....I'm the fastest 5br0 on pump on their list and out mph all of them with me on pump.
Hell i don't even have race brakes like the top ones.
5br0 logic is well.......nonexistent
Poppa has a drag pak and other wr. He is likely 100+lb lighter than stock.
Lol....I'm the fastest 5br0 on pump on their list and out mph all of them with me on pump.
Hell i don't even have race brakes like the top ones.
5br0 logic is well.......nonexistent
Poppa has a drag pak and other wr. He is likely 100+lb lighter than stock.
Not trying to start a shitstorm, but Poppa, you've said a few times now that an fbody needs weight reduction to run fast. I know I've already said this, but a full weight ws6 weighs anywhere in the 3550-3650 range from everything I've seen.
My car full weight put down barely over 390rwhp, ran 11.80's @116 with 2.73's 1.77 60' and 11.60-11.70's @117 with 3.42's a 1.72 60' iirc and tune in check.
I know this isn't exact, but usually
100lbs = .1 tenth/1 car length in a 1/4 mi.
10rwhp = .1 tenth/1 car length in a 1/4 mi.
So 10rwhp to make up for every 100lbs.
I know it isn't exact, but it's in the ballpark to figure out roughly what you need to make up the weight difference. That being said, say my car weighed 100lbs less than yours and by the average, You'd need 10rwhp to make up that difference. Or even say You're 200lbs heavier (which I highly doubt that), then I was at 390rwhp vs your 420rwhp? (not sure what you are, just guessing)
With 2.73's it would put us pretty dead even, definitely a drivers race. But with the 3.42's and my tune in check, I still would have ran a better time. I know this is all speculation and doesn't amount to anything, but I'm bringing it up as a comparison to show that it can be done with close to the same weight and in my case, a little less power.
Just food for thought, no wars or taking sides.
Edit: DA was 1171 with the 2.73's run and I'm trying to find the slip for the 3.42's. I believe it was 96x DA
My car full weight put down barely over 390rwhp, ran 11.80's @116 with 2.73's 1.77 60' and 11.60-11.70's @117 with 3.42's a 1.72 60' iirc and tune in check.
I know this isn't exact, but usually
100lbs = .1 tenth/1 car length in a 1/4 mi.
10rwhp = .1 tenth/1 car length in a 1/4 mi.
So 10rwhp to make up for every 100lbs.
I know it isn't exact, but it's in the ballpark to figure out roughly what you need to make up the weight difference. That being said, say my car weighed 100lbs less than yours and by the average, You'd need 10rwhp to make up that difference. Or even say You're 200lbs heavier (which I highly doubt that), then I was at 390rwhp vs your 420rwhp? (not sure what you are, just guessing)
With 2.73's it would put us pretty dead even, definitely a drivers race. But with the 3.42's and my tune in check, I still would have ran a better time. I know this is all speculation and doesn't amount to anything, but I'm bringing it up as a comparison to show that it can be done with close to the same weight and in my case, a little less power.
Just food for thought, no wars or taking sides.
Edit: DA was 1171 with the 2.73's run and I'm trying to find the slip for the 3.42's. I believe it was 96x DA
What were your mods at 390rwhp? Reason I ask is I am unsure what my car makes power wise at its current LBO state. But i know going FBO with headers, intake manifold, off road pipes etc should put me around 440-450ish?
I think mod for mod with the same weight, the 5.0 would prevail. The difference would be once the LS goes head/cam.... they definitely have more NA potential than the 5.0. I have no plans to stay NA though... hopefully I'll make my mind up on a Procharged, or Twin Turbo setup by fall.
#831
Most of it is trolling Duggy.
What were your mods at 390rwhp? Reason I ask is I am unsure what my car makes power wise at its current LBO state. But i know going FBO with headers, intake manifold, off road pipes etc should put me around 440-450ish?
I think mod for mod with the same weight, the 5.0 would prevail. The difference would be once the LS goes head/cam.... they definitely have more NA potential than the 5.0. I have no plans to stay NA though... hopefully I'll make my mind up on a Procharged, or Twin Turbo setup by fall.
You'll like it once you're boosted and I'm not saying I regret it, but I do wish a lot of times that I was still n/a. If I had just bought a really nice set of heads and ran a small shot of nitrous, I could have found a lot more races. Once people see the fmic they generally don't want to run. Even when you tell them that you'll turn the boost down, they think you're lying. Oh well, I'm still glad I did, because it's the best bang for the buck.
#832
390rwhp I was cam, full exhaust, stall, and tune. Everything else was all stock except for Toyo TQ drag radials and I'm about 190lbs. I agree that same weight mod for mod the 5.0 would win, but it also makes more power in stock form 420-435hp vs 350hp. That's why I mentioned my hp/weight because it's a better comparison for both cars. I think if you compare hp to weight that it's a lot closer than everyone likes to let on.
You'll like it once you're boosted and I'm not saying I regret it, but I do wish a lot of times that I was still n/a. If I had just bought a really nice set of heads and ran a small shot of nitrous, I could have found a lot more races. Once people see the fmic they generally don't want to run. Even when you tell them that you'll turn the boost down, they think you're lying. Oh well, I'm still glad I did, because it's the best bang for the buck.
You'll like it once you're boosted and I'm not saying I regret it, but I do wish a lot of times that I was still n/a. If I had just bought a really nice set of heads and ran a small shot of nitrous, I could have found a lot more races. Once people see the fmic they generally don't want to run. Even when you tell them that you'll turn the boost down, they think you're lying. Oh well, I'm still glad I did, because it's the best bang for the buck.
#833
#834
390rwhp I was cam, full exhaust, stall, and tune. Everything else was all stock except for Toyo TQ drag radials and I'm about 190lbs. I agree that same weight mod for mod the 5.0 would win, but it also makes more power in stock form 420-435hp vs 350hp. That's why I mentioned my hp/weight because it's a better comparison for both cars. I think if you compare hp to weight that it's a lot closer than everyone likes to let on.
You'll like it once you're boosted and I'm not saying I regret it, but I do wish a lot of times that I was still n/a. If I had just bought a really nice set of heads and ran a small shot of nitrous, I could have found a lot more races. Once people see the fmic they generally don't want to run. Even when you tell them that you'll turn the boost down, they think you're lying. Oh well, I'm still glad I did, because it's the best bang for the buck.
You'll like it once you're boosted and I'm not saying I regret it, but I do wish a lot of times that I was still n/a. If I had just bought a really nice set of heads and ran a small shot of nitrous, I could have found a lot more races. Once people see the fmic they generally don't want to run. Even when you tell them that you'll turn the boost down, they think you're lying. Oh well, I'm still glad I did, because it's the best bang for the buck.
I can't wait to boost the car. As far as getting races... well, if they don't want to run, then so be it. I don't mind losing races to cars I should lose to. I will race for the fun of it... which is why I am modding my car.... for fun. Perfect example is MadMike.. we are trying to get a mutual time to get together and do some fun runs.. maybe grab some lunch. I already know going into this that I will most likely be on the losing end... but do I care? Nah... its all fun to me. And his car moves out pretty decent.
#835
The thing is though, imagine what you would run at Hio's raceweight. That is my point... his weight is what is the biggest factor in his cars ET/Trap. If he were full factory weight, he would only be a mid 11second car at best.
I can't wait to boost the car. As far as getting races... well, if they don't want to run, then so be it. I don't mind losing races to cars I should lose to. I will race for the fun of it... which is why I am modding my car.... for fun. Perfect example is MadMike.. we are trying to get a mutual time to get together and do some fun runs.. maybe grab some lunch. I already know going into this that I will most likely be on the losing end... but do I care? Nah... its all fun to me. And his car moves out pretty decent.
I can't wait to boost the car. As far as getting races... well, if they don't want to run, then so be it. I don't mind losing races to cars I should lose to. I will race for the fun of it... which is why I am modding my car.... for fun. Perfect example is MadMike.. we are trying to get a mutual time to get together and do some fun runs.. maybe grab some lunch. I already know going into this that I will most likely be on the losing end... but do I care? Nah... its all fun to me. And his car moves out pretty decent.
#836
The thing is though, imagine what you would run at Hio's raceweight. That is my point... his weight is what is the biggest factor in his cars ET/Trap. If he were full factory weight, he would only be a mid 11second car at best.
I can't wait to boost the car. As far as getting races... well, if they don't want to run, then so be it. I don't mind losing races to cars I should lose to. I will race for the fun of it... which is why I am modding my car.... for fun. Perfect example is MadMike.. we are trying to get a mutual time to get together and do some fun runs.. maybe grab some lunch. I already know going into this that I will most likely be on the losing end... but do I care? Nah... its all fun to me. And his car moves out pretty decent.
I can't wait to boost the car. As far as getting races... well, if they don't want to run, then so be it. I don't mind losing races to cars I should lose to. I will race for the fun of it... which is why I am modding my car.... for fun. Perfect example is MadMike.. we are trying to get a mutual time to get together and do some fun runs.. maybe grab some lunch. I already know going into this that I will most likely be on the losing end... but do I care? Nah... its all fun to me. And his car moves out pretty decent.
It's a hobby all us car guys enjoy.
#837
If he does beat me I won't leave the site lolololol. I can't believe some people.
I met mappins at rockingham he seemed like a good dude. Poppa was there as well but we just didn't know at the time.
I met mappins at rockingham he seemed like a good dude. Poppa was there as well but we just didn't know at the time.
#839
#840
Wrong. You are as shady about notche's car as you are about yours. Poor Hio. He jelly that the LS motors need a lightweight car to go fast.
Your car on E85 wouldn't even go as fast as they are. You think I am wrong? prove it and go faster... quit whining about fuel that you choose not to run. You seem to like this NA stuff too.... fine.. stay NA... stay slower with the other NA guys.
Hmm.. in -1300DA at that... So he needed 2100ft less DA than me to go the same ET I did. Wow... I am impressed. Man.... imagine what I could do in -1300ft DA.... Sweet! Oh, and keep thinking I am FBO... and not LBO... if it makes you feel more like a winner.
Your car on E85 wouldn't even go as fast as they are. You think I am wrong? prove it and go faster... quit whining about fuel that you choose not to run. You seem to like this NA stuff too.... fine.. stay NA... stay slower with the other NA guys.
Hmm.. in -1300DA at that... So he needed 2100ft less DA than me to go the same ET I did. Wow... I am impressed. Man.... imagine what I could do in -1300ft DA.... Sweet! Oh, and keep thinking I am FBO... and not LBO... if it makes you feel more like a winner.
Another ran 11's in positive DA...
Like I keep telling you. Your car is as fast as a stock 6 gen