Boss 302 vs 2016 SS
4.6L vs 4.8L = 305/300 vs 270/285. 5.4L vs 5.3L = 300/355 vs 285/325
Hio, king of the hero cars being the average, is saying the average motor only makes 360RWP. All I can say is that those cars weren't set up proper.
My 2V currently runs backwards. Then it's probably going to run into a 4V because I am trying to build the car on a budget.
I thought you didn't care?
I see where you're going with this and it's weak. My example has the guy changing cams, changing cubic inches, changing compression, changing exhaust, changing the tune and changing the intake.
Your example is unnamed bolt on's that only you know about. If you gave an actual mod list that explained where that extra HP was coming from, I would believe you in a heartbeat.
It's not that you don't want to give that list, it's that you cant, because it's impossible. Even the regular people of LS1 tech are calling BS, not just the people in here.
Ci to ci, mod motors have always outperformed the LS engines, especially in 4V or 3V format. The only reason the 2v's have been lagging behind is due to poor head technology, the trick flows are changing that.
4.6L vs 4.8L = 305/300 vs 270/285. 5.4L vs 5.3L = 300/355 vs 285/325
Hio, king of the hero cars being the average, is saying the average motor only makes 360RWP. All I can say is that those cars weren't set up proper.
My 2V currently runs backwards. Then it's probably going to run into a 4V because I am trying to build the car on a budget.
I thought you didn't care?
I see where you're going with this and it's weak. My example has the guy changing cams, changing cubic inches, changing compression, changing exhaust, changing the tune and changing the intake.
Your example is unnamed bolt on's that only you know about. If you gave an actual mod list that explained where that extra HP was coming from, I would believe you in a heartbeat.
It's not that you don't want to give that list, it's that you cant, because it's impossible. Even the regular people of LS1 tech are calling BS, not just the people in here.
4.6L vs 4.8L = 305/300 vs 270/285. 5.4L vs 5.3L = 300/355 vs 285/325
Hio, king of the hero cars being the average, is saying the average motor only makes 360RWP. All I can say is that those cars weren't set up proper.
My 2V currently runs backwards. Then it's probably going to run into a 4V because I am trying to build the car on a budget.
I thought you didn't care?
I see where you're going with this and it's weak. My example has the guy changing cams, changing cubic inches, changing compression, changing exhaust, changing the tune and changing the intake.
Your example is unnamed bolt on's that only you know about. If you gave an actual mod list that explained where that extra HP was coming from, I would believe you in a heartbeat.
It's not that you don't want to give that list, it's that you cant, because it's impossible. Even the regular people of LS1 tech are calling BS, not just the people in here.
Fyi....the old 5.3 was rated as much as 315hp. More than your 5.4. Also lining the 2 trucks up the 5.3 would curb stomp the 5.4. It wasn't as close as the hp made it seem.
Now moving on to the new 5.3 it easily beats the 5.4 and is a great match for the 5.0.
Even more better the 5.3 was not the only choice. There 6.0 and 6.2 options depending on year that thrashes anything furd has offered in trucks.
Lets go back to the very limited 4 cam cobro r at 385 hp. It gets beat easily by the ls6, a engine that you didn't have to sell your first born to have and it ended up in a sedan.
Here's the best part.....not having to whine like a bitch like cause your pissy *** mod motors even built have a terrible time making bolt on ls hp. Furd still has no real answer for the ls7 because they really can't get there. Even the flat crank 5.2 only matches it's hp(according to actual back to back tests) and falls way short on tq.......way short.
Best part is when real mods take over your built furd **** is well over 100hp short of a h/c ls7.
So what's your legacy? Knowing nothing and doing nothing.......that sums it up for you.
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Ci to ci, mod motors have always outperformed the LS engines, especially in 4V or 3V format. The only reason the 2v's have been lagging behind is due to poor head technology, the trick flows are changing that.
4.6L vs 4.8L = 305/300 vs 270/285. 5.4L vs 5.3L = 300/355 vs 285/325
4.6L vs 4.8L = 305/300 vs 270/285. 5.4L vs 5.3L = 300/355 vs 285/325
Hio, king of the hero cars being the average, is saying the average motor only makes 360RWP. All I can say is that those cars weren't set up proper.
I thought you didn't care?
I see where you're going with this and it's weak. My example has the guy changing cams, changing cubic inches, changing compression, changing exhaust, changing the tune and changing the intake.
Your example is unnamed bolt on's that only you know about. If you gave an actual mod list that explained where that extra HP was coming from, I would believe you in a heartbeat.
It's not that you don't want to give that list, it's that you cant, because it's impossible. Even the regular people of LS1 tech are calling BS, not just the people in here.
I see where you're going with this and it's weak. My example has the guy changing cams, changing cubic inches, changing compression, changing exhaust, changing the tune and changing the intake.
Your example is unnamed bolt on's that only you know about. If you gave an actual mod list that explained where that extra HP was coming from, I would believe you in a heartbeat.
It's not that you don't want to give that list, it's that you cant, because it's impossible. Even the regular people of LS1 tech are calling BS, not just the people in here.
Sad little lives these furd guys have...
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Ci to ci, mod motors have always outperformed the LS engines, especially in 4V or 3V format. The only reason the 2v's have been lagging behind is due to poor head technology, the trick flows are changing that.
4.6L vs 4.8L = 305/300 vs 270/285. 5.4L vs 5.3L = 300/355 vs 285/325
Hio, king of the hero cars being the average, is saying the average motor only makes 360RWP. All I can say is that those cars weren't set up proper.
My 2V currently runs backwards. Then it's probably going to run into a 4V because I am trying to build the car on a budget.
I thought you didn't care?
I see where you're going with this and it's weak. My example has the guy changing cams, changing cubic inches, changing compression, changing exhaust, changing the tune and changing the intake.
Your example is unnamed bolt on's that only you know about. If you gave an actual mod list that explained where that extra HP was coming from, I would believe you in a heartbeat.
It's not that you don't want to give that list, it's that you cant, because it's impossible. Even the regular people of LS1 tech are calling BS, not just the people in here.
4.6L vs 4.8L = 305/300 vs 270/285. 5.4L vs 5.3L = 300/355 vs 285/325
Hio, king of the hero cars being the average, is saying the average motor only makes 360RWP. All I can say is that those cars weren't set up proper.
My 2V currently runs backwards. Then it's probably going to run into a 4V because I am trying to build the car on a budget.
I thought you didn't care?
I see where you're going with this and it's weak. My example has the guy changing cams, changing cubic inches, changing compression, changing exhaust, changing the tune and changing the intake.
Your example is unnamed bolt on's that only you know about. If you gave an actual mod list that explained where that extra HP was coming from, I would believe you in a heartbeat.
It's not that you don't want to give that list, it's that you cant, because it's impossible. Even the regular people of LS1 tech are calling BS, not just the people in here.
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Verdad Gallardo All you gotta do is spit out some numbers man.....pretty sad you're that dumb.
You should really stop trying to be a dumbass. Anyone this stupid has to be trying.
Fyi....the old 5.3 was rated as much as 315hp. More than your 5.4. Also lining the 2 trucks up the 5.3 would curb stomp the 5.4. It wasn't as close as the hp made it seem.
Now moving on to the new 5.3 it easily beats the 5.4 and is a great match for the 5.0.
Even more better the 5.3 was not the only choice. There 6.0 and 6.2 options depending on year that thrashes anything furd has offered in trucks.
Lets go back to the very limited 4 cam cobro r at 385 hp. It gets beat easily by the ls6, a engine that you didn't have to sell your first born to have and it ended up in a sedan.
Here's the best part.....not having to whine like a bitch like cause your pissy *** mod motors even built have a terrible time making bolt on ls hp. Furd still has no real answer for the ls7 because they really can't get there. Even the flat crank 5.2 only matches it's hp(according to actual back to back tests) and falls way short on tq.......way short.
Best part is when real mods take over your built furd **** is well over 100hp short of a h/c ls7.
You should really stop trying to be a dumbass. Anyone this stupid has to be trying.
Fyi....the old 5.3 was rated as much as 315hp. More than your 5.4. Also lining the 2 trucks up the 5.3 would curb stomp the 5.4. It wasn't as close as the hp made it seem.
Now moving on to the new 5.3 it easily beats the 5.4 and is a great match for the 5.0.
Even more better the 5.3 was not the only choice. There 6.0 and 6.2 options depending on year that thrashes anything furd has offered in trucks.
Lets go back to the very limited 4 cam cobro r at 385 hp. It gets beat easily by the ls6, a engine that you didn't have to sell your first born to have and it ended up in a sedan.
Here's the best part.....not having to whine like a bitch like cause your pissy *** mod motors even built have a terrible time making bolt on ls hp. Furd still has no real answer for the ls7 because they really can't get there. Even the flat crank 5.2 only matches it's hp(according to actual back to back tests) and falls way short on tq.......way short.
Best part is when real mods take over your built furd **** is well over 100hp short of a h/c ls7.
I'm comparing era to era on the 5.4L and 5.3L, you are trying to use L33 numbers, which didn't come out until 05 and only made 310HP/335ftlbs. The 5.4L 3V was 300hp/365ftlbs. The only reason a chevy wins is because of how much less it weighs, cause the motor itself outperforms the 5.3L big time.
As for the 6.0L, I am pretty sure that the 6.8L V10 has it covered, both HP and torque wise.
And to add to your tears, the Australian Boss 315 was a 5.4L 4V naturally aspirated engine that cranked out 422HP/406ftlbs, right on par with an LS3 and it did it with less cubic inches. Ford didn't bother over here, because they had the supercharged editions.
Bottom line, the mod motors are right with the LS engines in NA form, just that most people don't bother.
Proper or not that is what is average, we are talking about mustang owners here, they are more concerned about comparing hp/l on the Internet and the best car show burn out/crowd crash than they are about making power. If they were worried about making power they would either swap in an lsx or buy a different car.
I'm honestly jealous of his car for all the sleep it causes furd guys to lose. Better log into a gm site so you can trash talk a gm owner with a little bolt on car that is upsetting guys with full blown race cars.
Sad little lives these furd guys have...
I'm honestly jealous of his car for all the sleep it causes furd guys to lose. Better log into a gm site so you can trash talk a gm owner with a little bolt on car that is upsetting guys with full blown race cars.
Sad little lives these furd guys have...
Hey, lets play the average game. The average full bolt on LS1 struggles to break 360RWP, the average h/c/i LS1 can't break 450RWP.
You think I'm a ford guy, that's your problem, far from it. Nothing would make me happier than to have a bolt on LS1 making those kinds of numbers. Hell, I would be copying what he is doing for my WS6, if it was actually possible, but it's not.
And your mod list is what? Hey, I found out how to transmute lead into gold, not telling you how, but believe me when I say that it's possible.
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I'm glad ya'll can't stop thinking about it. Again, you're the guy claiming impossible times and numbers, you're the guy that thinks all 4th gens run 12's stock, you're the guy that believes hammer when he says that he is putting down h/c/i numbers with "bolt ons". Allow me to return your advice, stop trying to be stupid.
I'm comparing era to era on the 5.4L and 5.3L, you are trying to use L33 numbers, which didn't come out until 05 and only made 310HP/335ftlbs. The 5.4L 3V was 300hp/365ftlbs. The only reason a chevy wins is because of how much less it weighs, cause the motor itself outperforms the 5.3L big time.
As for the 6.0L, I am pretty sure that the 6.8L V10 has it covered, both HP and torque wise.
And to add to your tears, the Australian Boss 315 was a 5.4L 4V naturally aspirated engine that cranked out 422HP/406ftlbs, right on par with an LS3 and it did it with less cubic inches. Ford didn't bother over here, because they had the supercharged editions.
Bottom line, the mod motors are right with the LS engines in NA form, just that most people don't bother.
Hio is the one trying to play the displacement card like the LS1 and Mod motor are identical.
Hey, lets play the average game. The average full bolt on LS1 struggles to break 360RWP, the average h/c/i LS1 can't break 450RWP.
You think I'm a ford guy, that's your problem, far from it. Nothing would make me happier than to have a bolt on LS1 making those kinds of numbers. Hell, I would be copying what he is doing for my WS6, if it was actually possible, but it's not.
And your mod list is what? Hey, I found out how to transmute lead into gold, not telling you how, but believe me when I say that it's possible.
I'm comparing era to era on the 5.4L and 5.3L, you are trying to use L33 numbers, which didn't come out until 05 and only made 310HP/335ftlbs. The 5.4L 3V was 300hp/365ftlbs. The only reason a chevy wins is because of how much less it weighs, cause the motor itself outperforms the 5.3L big time.
As for the 6.0L, I am pretty sure that the 6.8L V10 has it covered, both HP and torque wise.
And to add to your tears, the Australian Boss 315 was a 5.4L 4V naturally aspirated engine that cranked out 422HP/406ftlbs, right on par with an LS3 and it did it with less cubic inches. Ford didn't bother over here, because they had the supercharged editions.
Bottom line, the mod motors are right with the LS engines in NA form, just that most people don't bother.
Hio is the one trying to play the displacement card like the LS1 and Mod motor are identical.
Hey, lets play the average game. The average full bolt on LS1 struggles to break 360RWP, the average h/c/i LS1 can't break 450RWP.
You think I'm a ford guy, that's your problem, far from it. Nothing would make me happier than to have a bolt on LS1 making those kinds of numbers. Hell, I would be copying what he is doing for my WS6, if it was actually possible, but it's not.
And your mod list is what? Hey, I found out how to transmute lead into gold, not telling you how, but believe me when I say that it's possible.
Hammer don't have h/c.....stupid
No...the l33 made as much as 315....so yea it out powered the lethargic 5.4. Besides what does it matter if it didn't come out to 05?
The v10 was almost as turdy as furds other gas motors. It was nothing impressive.
Has mod motors been 8s n/a? I guess they can't go toe to toe with ls stuff.
Ls1s don't struggle to make 360.....that's very easy. You are simply a butt hurt little bitch a d don't know how.
Here...ask yourself a question. If the modulars were so great how come there isn't k members/swap header to install them in anything.
Yea he's mad.....and he's dumb.