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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
As with most 5Gs, a tune is a night and day difference. It's much unlike the new 6G that is pretty well maxed out from the factory.
I'm not so sure about that. Right now 6gens are at about 470whp on pump gas. This wasn't a shop....just a verage guy doin pretty average bolt ons. They will go over 500whp with bolt ons and e85. Lt's have a serious amount of tq to go along with that hp.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I'm not so sure about that. Right now 6gens are at about 470whp on pump gas. This wasn't a shop....just a verage guy doin pretty average bolt ons. They will go over 500whp with bolt ons and e85. Lt's have a serious amount of tq to go along with that hp.
CC only gained a handful of power over the stock tune on premium. Pretty maxed out from the factory.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
CC only gained a handful of power over the stock tune on premium. Pretty maxed out from the factory.
Even more impressive he made 470 rwhp on pump.

Like was said ~500 rwhp with full bolt on and e85. How does that compare to the 5.0?
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay z28
Gay jokes? Are we in Jr. High again? Geez..
Apparently he's 31 now. Unfortunately his brain hasn't aged a day in 17 years.

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Both of my vehicles in the same picture hahahaha that's two more than you, feg.
Give it up Nate. It's so obvious you keep photoshopping the same car, in multiple different angles at that, into your pics.
On another note, I think someone's just a tad bit jealous, ya think? Lol
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
How does that compare to the 5.0?
Well, the Coyote has been 9's with bolt ons, so the 6G still has a bit to go to catch up. Time will tell.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
CC only gained a handful of power over the stock tune on premium. Pretty maxed out from the factory.
I doubt they are close to being maxed out on factory tune, gm is very conservative on their stock tunes. I would have to look at one to be sure about it. They like to run pretty rich afr.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by nmass399
I doubt they are close to being maxed out on factory tune, gm is very conservative on their stock tunes. I would have to look at one to be sure about it. They like to run pretty rich afr.
that was mostly a joke.

That being said, 6G definitely isn't a night and day difference tune only like an L99 5G with a tune and trans tune.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nmass399
I doubt they are close to being maxed out on factory tune, gm is very conservative on their stock tunes. I would have to look at one to be sure about it. They like to run pretty rich afr.
Always lots left in the torque management on those cars. Not sure if you can tune it out yet or not.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 05:01 PM
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Oh snap, when did you get a 4th gen?
Last Tuesday.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JC316
No idea on the block and heads, all it said was stock. Because when you start talking about autocross, it comes down to the car itself, and because no one gives two ***** about autocross.
Who said anything about auto-x? I was thinking more along the lines of road course.
Either way both types of driving have driver and chassis setup to go along with the engine, but setting an engine up to last on a road course is a lot more impressive than setting up an engine to last a matter of seconds in a strait line.

Again, you're taking what I said out of context, you're just trolling, or completely stupid, so I'm not going to explain it again. Also, nowhere in that quote did I say anything about the displacement.
Its not out of context, its literally what you said.

Exactly, he is the only guy in the game making new stuff. If he can get a 2V to 500RWP, imagine what he could do with a 4V.
Probably could make some great power. Doesn't get around the fact you can buy a big block(ford or chevy) that will be the same size/weight as a mod motor and make more power though.

You mean like the 4.6L 3V and 5.4L 3V truck engines vs the GM 4.8l and 5.3l truck engines? Cause I'm fairly certain those were meant to compete with each other.
The 4.6L is a hand-me-down from the mustang. Either way as I said earlier truck engines are not going for max power so the point is moot.

And while we're at it, we can talk about the Mach 1 that ran right with the SS, and the terminators that pushed GM's **** in.
Mach1 running "right with" is a bit of a stretch, and the slobra only pushed the **** in on its own drivers.
We can compare those engines though like I was saying earlier.
The smaller 400lbs LS1 made 345hp
while the bigger, 540lbs+ 4.6L Mach1 made 305hp.
The smaller 400lbs LS6 made 405hp
while the bigger 600+lbs Cobro 4.6L made 390hp.
So in other words if you were to swap in an LS1 or LS6 into those cars they would be all around better performers. Strait line, handling, braking, gas mileage, you name it.

And then there are the coyote cars that have been embarrassing GM cars for the last 5 years.
Only thing those have been embarrassing is the owners when they loose control and crash into crowds... However I applaud Ford for finally building a respectable Mustang GT.

And once again, I am out. You live and die for chevrolet and have your mind completely made up. Just remember that the mod motor record time completely destroys the LSx record time.
My mind is made up on the facts, I prefer the superior engine, regardless of brand. Im a fan of the coyote myself, its just a shame that most of the owners are such total douches, and still have a bad chip on their shoulder from the old LS1. You seem to have a bit of a chip yourself for some reason.
I couldn't care less about a heavily restricted strait line class that driver with the bigger wallet wins.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 07:03 PM
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The results from the dyno day Saturday. All the Mustangs above the 460 were full on race cars. The 460 was a 5.0 on a 100 shot.

It's funny because the 5bros and GT500s here are fun to beat too.

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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 07:27 PM
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Zl1 even used are big bucks. Good job!
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 07:38 PM
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I would have never bought another Chevy unless it was one of the 3 exceptions (ZR1, Z06, or ZL1) and the price would have to be to good to pass on. The price was just too good to pass on. I'm not planning on keeping it unless things don't pan out. But then it will probably fall apart or some mysterious crap will start happening to it. I'm still looking for the right Hellcat.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by big hammer
Always lots left in the torque management on those cars. Not sure if you can tune it out yet or not.
Yeah the torque management should help a fair amount, I dunno if hp tuners or efi live can yet or not but since they can with the lt1 vettes should not take them long.


Originally Posted by marc97taws6
that was mostly a joke.

That being said, 6G definitely isn't a night and day difference tune only like an L99 5G with a tune and trans tune.
Oh ok lol, I've never looked at anything newer other than the 2011 Grand sport with the auto. Did not know that with the l99.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 08:47 PM
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Sweet beaner billit grill on that fake car, Nate. Nice try, tool.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by R6cowboy
Apparently he's 31 now. Unfortunately his brain hasn't aged a day in 17 years.


Give it up Nate. It's so obvious you keep photoshopping the same car, in multiple different angles at that, into your pics.
On another note, I think someone's just a tad bit jealous, ya think? Lol
Why would I be jealous of that fake, ugly, billit grilled turd? Especially when I'd drag that car down the street.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Click Click Boom
Why would I be jealous of that fake, ugly, billit grilled turd? Especially when I'd drag that car down the street.
You couldn't drag a 2v down the road... LOL Car is weak.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ZNix
You couldn't drag a 2v down the road... LOL Car is weak.
Bring me a stock 2v then, porky. I'll be happy to put about 20 buses on it.
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Click Click Boom
Bring me a stock 2v then, porky. I'll be happy to put about 20 buses on it.
Never said stock... But I bet you both can get to 110mph at about the same time.....
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ZNix
Never said stock... But I bet you both can get to 110mph at about the same time.....
You truly are a dumbass.
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