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Old 09-05-2016, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Fixed it for you

Just got my car in 2015. If he is the standard, looks like I have another 11 years to run 10's like he did

Not to mention, the 12.2@114 run was my old time
Nice of you to admit Hio is your benchmark. Must be nice for him to live rent free for many years to come.

Keep us updated on your 10sec pass
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
There was no catching up to do. The ls3 will make more power than the 5br0 in bolt on form......same hp but more tq = more power. Most just don't because they get cam hungry.
Not without opening the motor up they won't be a faster car. They already have ground to make up to the 5.0 from stock. Jury still out on how the 6gens will do long term with bolt ons. I guess still more mods to come out.
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When we talk about modded cars we limit the car to just bolt ons. Why is that?
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
When we talk about modded cars we limit the car to just bolt ons. Why is that?
because the Hiocrew wants to be like the br0s so bad.
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Originally Posted by NateLS1Mustang
because the Hiocrew wants to be like the br0s so bad.
I think both the LS3 and coyote will both do some pretty good stuff with bolt ons. They are pretty comparable as far as dyno numbers go with the ls3 having the upper hand a bit. Nobody is really going to spend the money on aftermarket heads for the coyote. Way to much money. The problem is the 5th gen is hauling to much *** around. Nothing a diet wouldn't fix though.
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
I think both the LS3 and coyote will both do some pretty good stuff with bolt ons. They are pretty comparable as far as dyno numbers go with the ls3 having the upper hand a bit. Nobody is really going to spend the money on aftermarket heads for the coyote. Way to much money. The problem is the 5th gen is hauling to much *** around. Nothing a diet wouldn't fix though.
I agree with you 100%. The LS3 is a very good motor, and is very comparable to the Coyote. The LS being the better NA choice with heads/cam, and the Coyote shining with boost. The 5th gens biggest problem is weigh with all other factors taken away.
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Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
Nice of you to admit Hio is your benchmark. Must be nice for him to live rent free for many years to come.

Keep us updated on your 10sec pass
You set him as the benchmark. Hence my "I have 11 more years I guess" comment.
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
I think both the LS3 and coyote will both do some pretty good stuff with bolt ons. They are pretty comparable as far as dyno numbers go with the ls3 having the upper hand a bit. Nobody is really going to spend the money on aftermarket heads for the coyote. Way to much money. The problem is the 5th gen is hauling to much *** around. Nothing a diet wouldn't fix though.
Agreed on that, bolt ons for bolt ons, the 5G, at least on the C5 fast list, hasn't went 10's yet like the Coyote.

I'm sure we'll see the 6G do it pretty regularly once the aftermarket catches up. The cars straight scoot and make me consider a gm product again
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Originally Posted by BlkMach1
Noticed a lot of real world times in the last 2 pages, high 11s with test pipes tune and DR with a 115 trap. 110-112 stock or stock with intake running mid to high 12s.
So about 3/4 of a sec faster than a 5br0
Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Fixed it for you

Just got my car in 2015. If he is the standard, looks like I have another 11 years to run 10's like he did

Not to mention, the 12.2@114 run was my old time
Well post your new times.
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I only went once to PBIR bone stock, only got one run since people have a tendency to either blow motors or refuse to stop at the end of the track. So it was a clusterfuck that night sitting in the lanes idling. I ran 13.0 @109 with a 2.1x 60ft in DA over 2000. I went around and sat in the lanes for another 45 minutes before I said screw this and left. From what I remember there's a good number of people running mid 12s stock. There's a guy with a couple bolt ons, tune and DRs running 11.1 @ 121. I haven't been back since but want to go when I get some tires.
do stock you were a decent run for a free mod ls1 car.
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Nice of you to admit Hio is your benchmark. Must be nice for him to live rent free for many years to come.

Keep us updated on your 10sec pass
Lolz......he can't do it w/o a power adder. And never mind him posting proof of any times.
Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Not without opening the motor up they won't be a faster car. They already have ground to make up to the 5.0 from stock. Jury still out on how the 6gens will do long term with bolt ons. I guess still more mods to come out.
Opening up the motor? What you gonna cry about now?

Yes it does make more power. Coyote can't touch it on pump.
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When we talk about modded cars we limit the car to just bolt ons. Why is that?
That's the only way the coyote can realistically compete. It just flat gets it *** handed to it once past bolt ons.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
That's the only way the coyote can realistically compete. It just flat gets it *** handed to it once past bolt ons.
And it's safe to say when it comes to FI, GM gets its *** handed to it.
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How so? Please explain how magically the 5br0 is gonna surpass either engine under the same conditions.


Realistically the 5br0 won't touch them on pump.

It will be interesting when ls3 vs coyote comparison gets to boosting both engines. Hopefully they run them at the same psi and efficiency levels. Coyote will stand no chance if they do......especially if they stay on pump gas.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
How so? Please explain how magically the 5br0 is gonna surpass either engine under the same conditions.


Realistically the 5br0 won't touch them on pump.

It will be interesting when ls3 vs coyote comparison gets to boosting both engines. Hopefully they run them at the same psi and efficiency levels. Coyote will stand no chance if they do......especially if they stay on pump gas.
Direct me at some numbers for an LS3 on a 2.3 TVS kit that makes 600+rwhp? All I see is low to mid 500s. I chose the TVS because the coyotes also have a TVS available to them and even a crappy tuned roush makes 550+
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
So about 3/4 of a sec faster than a 5br0

Well post your new times.

do stock you were a decent run for a free mod ls1 car.

Lolz......he can't do it w/o a power adder. And never mind him posting proof of any times.

Opening up the motor? What you gonna cry about now?

Yes it does make more power. Coyote can't touch it on pump.

That's the only way the coyote can realistically compete. It just flat gets it *** handed to it once past bolt ons.

Yea super terrified of those free mod LS1 cars.
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Originally Posted by BlkMach1
Direct me at some numbers for an LS3 on a 2.3 TVS kit that makes 600+rwhp? All I see is low to mid 500s. I chose the TVS because the coyotes also have a TVS available to them and even a crappy tuned roush makes 550+
They are out there.....you should do better research before spewing stupid ****.

Personally i would never use that blower on a ls3. It's just not efficient at feeding it. Be a great tq monster pick up truck blower.
Originally Posted by BlkMach1
Yea super terrified of those free mod LS1 cars.
Well.......even stock ls1's have been faster than your stock time. Phil's free mod ls1 went faster than you stock. So yea a free mod car could outrun you.

Welcome to 1998 5br0s
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
They are out there.....you should do better research before spewing stupid ****.

Personally i would never use that blower on a ls3. It's just not efficient at feeding it. Be a great tq monster pick up truck blower.


Well.......even stock ls1's have been faster than your stock time. Phil's free mod ls1 went faster than you stock. So yea a free mod car could outrun you.

Welcome to 1998 5br0s
I did plenty, i googled searched and I also searched on YT. Sorry, the 5th gen doesn't make as much power as the br0 with a 2.3.

I'm not at all concerned about the times I ran on stock 255 all seasons with 400 miles on the car after sitting on the staging lanes for 45 minutes after a 2hr drive to the track. My AITs were just under 140 on that run.
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I seen a fif gen LS3 with a 2.9L Whipple, I wasn't impressed with it's pass.....but is made the right noises. lol
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Originally Posted by islander033
I seen a fif gen LS3 with a 2.9L Whipple, I wasn't impressed with it's pass.....but is made the right noises. lol
Didn't know there was a 2.9 whipple for the LS3, I'll look to see what it makes.
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Originally Posted by BlkMach1
I did plenty, i googled searched and I also searched on YT. Sorry, the 5th gen doesn't make as much power as the br0 with a 2.3.

I'm not at all concerned about the times I ran on stock 255 all seasons with 400 miles on the car after sitting on the staging lanes for 45 minutes after a 2hr drive to the track. My AITs were just under 140 on that run.
So you're only interested in some iced down glory run?? Figures.....typical furd guy.

Like i said i would never use a 2.3 on a ls3 unless it was a truck. Sbe ls3s have been over 800whp with that blower. But it peaks early and makes gobs of tq.......perfect for a truck
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Didn't know there was a 2.9 whipple for the LS3, I'll look to see what it makes.
There are lots of blowers that fit them.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
So you're only interested in some iced down glory run?? Figures.....typical furd guy.

Like i said i would never use a 2.3 on a ls3 unless it was a truck. Sbe ls3s have been over 800whp with that blower. But it peaks early and makes gobs of tq.......perfect for a truck


There are lots of blowers that fit them.
Ice down glory? Where dude? Get a clue, people bolt on a whipple kit to a coyote and put down 650whp on whipple's concervative tuning. I see 5g putting down high 500s low 600s on the same kit.

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Originally Posted by assasinator
You are lost
He is a pro dyno sheet racer.

Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
When we talk about modded cars we limit the car to just bolt ons. Why is that?
That's a good question. FI is moar bettah.


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