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Old 09-12-2016, 10:31 PM
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I wish I could way 165. I would have to lose 50 pounds though D':
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You can only talk about the 5Gs that actually race unfortunately.
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Ultraz-. Your lost man. He has been 130.39 on E85 in worse air.

Doug-. I don't know why you have been scared of kik lately? It's just gentleman talking in there.....I have all the stuff on my phone makes it easier to Post in there. Yes I've been 121.05 bolt ons I believe in +3200 DA 3760 RW. I'll post slip in group in the morning. So yes once again. I don't lie.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
Bolt on ls6 10.0 135. 9.5 @ 140 cam only
-1200 DA and 2700lb RW helps.
Old 09-12-2016, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
-1200 DA and 2700lb RW helps.
Its no secret that LS motors requirr lightweight chassis to go fast.
Old 09-13-2016, 12:39 AM
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Phil pulls you topend in a heavier car though. Oops.
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
Ultraz-. Your lost man. He has been 130.39 on E85 in worse air.

Doug-. I don't know why you have been scared of kik lately? It's just gentleman talking in there.....I have all the stuff on my phone makes it easier to Post in there. Yes I've been 121.05 bolt ons I believe in +3200 DA 3760 RW. I'll post slip in group in the morning. So yes once again. I don't lie.
Once again it's you're in that sentence structure.

Nope I'm just informed and not easy to fool.

That was his best trap on e85. 125-130 was the spread. 4 mph gain minimum. 1200 da at the start of the night on his best e85 runs and da dropped from that point. It was less than 1000 da difference and a spread of 4-9 mph difference. I'm being generous with 4 mph even counting for conditions. 1000 da is 1 mph

Twist it however you want this car gained huge from the fuel. Just like I said it would. Funny you are the only person that wasn't super impressed with the fuel. Even the owner was. Every person in the threads were mind boggled by the gains over e85. Just think about that in comparison to 93 lmao.

I've done my research on the fuel and it's a massive advantage. If it weren't you'd have to be an absolute idiot to spend 35 gal on it but that seems like your angle I guess

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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Phil pulls you topend in a heavier car though. Oops.
Does he? Because from what I saw the first gear rolls you can see 1.5-2 cars back on the camera....Phil never comes back into the picture. So does that mean Poppa pulled maybe 3 cars off the rip? If so that's super weird because Coyotes make no torque. Now Phil did very good on one of the rolls where he got a big jump due to the horn issue so not his fault at all. And yes 60 roll where autos completely fail. Once again both cars did very good and I really like Phil and Poppa both are making changes to go faster.
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
Once again it's you're in that sentence structure.

Nope I'm just informed and not easy to fool.

That was his best trap on e85. 125-130 was the spread. 4 mph gain minimum.

Twist it however you want this car gained huge from the fuel. Just like I said it would. Funny you are the only person that wasn't super impressed with the fuel. Even the owner was. Every person in the threads were mind boggled by the gains over e85. Just think about that in comparison to 93 lmao.
Ultra ultra your being super ultra.....FTW fuel is amazing. It's way to rich for my blood. Yes it helps. Yes E85 helps. He has been over 130 on E85 but when he changed over to FTW he also got some really good -DA. I've never ever discounted FTW I am actually jealous I can't afford it.
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
Ultra ultra your being super ultra.....FTW fuel is amazing. It's way to rich for my blood. Yes it helps. Yes E85 helps. He has been over 130 on E85 but when he changed over to FTW he also got some really good -DA. I've never ever discounted FTW I am actually jealous I can't afford it.
I know all the DA changes and the trap speeds associated with them and I stand by my assessment.

But hey you can win again bro
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
I know all the DA changes and the trap speeds associated with them and I stand by my assessment.

But hey you can win again bro
I know exzactly how much power he gained from E85 to FTW and its not even close to 4mph worth not even on the same chart. And yes Ultra we make this a daily night event I like wining lol
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
I know exzactly how much power he gained from E85 to FTW and its not even close to 4mph worth not even on the same chart. And yes Ultra we make this a daily night event I like wining lol
I seen it too. 20 rwhp at peak. Didn't check out the rest of the curve. Don't be ultra and just equate 10 peak hp per mph. You're a lot smarter than me.

He wouldn't spend 35 gal for 2 mph unless he's an absolute moron but like I've said you win.
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
I seen it too. 20 rwhp at peak. Didn't check out the rest of the curve. Don't be ultra and just equate 10 peak hp per mph. You're a lot smarter than me.

He wouldn't spend 35 gal for 2 mph unless he's an absolute moron but like I've said you win.
Ultra I am trying to help you here just slow down and read..... actually I will help you because I kinda like you. We need to get you in the group.....you wanna know what is just as important and as big as gain as the fuel change? His best E85 run was at +1200 DA and he went 10.76@130.39 first pass of the night. On the FTW pass it was -384 thats over 1500 DA difference......which is absolutely massive. So combine the huge DA drop and fuel it makes perfect sense to me....also tells me if I am a betting man FTW fuel is worth 1-1.5 MPH over E85.
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
Does he? Because from what I saw the first gear rolls you can see 1.5-2 cars back on the camera....Phil never comes back into the picture. So does that mean Poppa pulled maybe 3 cars off the rip? If so that's super weird because Coyotes make no torque. Now Phil did very good on one of the rolls where he got a big jump due to the horn issue so not his fault at all. And yes 60 roll where autos completely fail. Once again both cars did very good and I really like Phil and Poppa both are making changes to go faster.
I think he was joking. He was responding to a troll post
Old 09-13-2016, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 408-99-f
I think he was joking. He was responding to a troll post
No I know Mike he is being dead serious. He will come back and confirm I'm sure lol
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
Ultraz-. Your lost man. He has been 130.39 on E85 in worse air.

Doug-. I don't know why you have been scared of kik lately? It's just gentleman talking in there.....I have all the stuff on my phone makes it easier to Post in there. Yes I've been 121.05 bolt ons I believe in +3200 DA 3760 RW. I'll post slip in group in the morning. So yes once again. I don't lie.
I was in there yesterday posting the lightning lap results.

Never heard ya say 121 before. It's always been 120.......till hammer went 121 Be easier to post the slip in here for all to see.
Originally Posted by corysmach1
-1200 DA and 2700lb RW helps.
More bad info. He said the car was 29xx rw.

Do you discount the negative da all the 5br0s run in as normal?
Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
Once again it's you're in that sentence structure.

Nope I'm just informed and not easy to fool.

That was his best trap on e85. 125-130 was the spread. 4 mph gain minimum. 1200 da at the start of the night on his best e85 runs and da dropped from that point. It was less than 1000 da difference and a spread of 4-9 mph difference. I'm being generous with 4 mph even counting for conditions. 1000 da is 1 mph

Twist it however you want this car gained huge from the fuel. Just like I said it would. Funny you are the only person that wasn't super impressed with the fuel. Even the owner was. Every person in the threads were mind boggled by the gains over e85. Just think about that in comparison to 93 lmao.

I've done my research on the fuel and it's a massive advantage. If it weren't you'd have to be an absolute idiot to spend 35 gal on it but that seems like your angle I guess
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
Ultra I am trying to help you here just slow down and read..... actually I will help you because I kinda like you. We need to get you in the group.....you wanna know what is just as important and as big as gain as the fuel change? His best E85 run was at +1200 DA and he went 10.76@130.39 first pass of the night. On the FTW pass it was -384 thats over 1500 DA difference......which is absolutely massive. So combine the huge DA drop and fuel it makes perfect sense to me....also tells me if I am a betting man FTW fuel is worth 1-1.5 MPH over E85.
Wow.....so i was right. We would be close him on pump.
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2900? Damn I wish I could shave 900lbs off my car without it being a Hio's Swiss cheese special.
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Funny you say that.....i bet you think the same way about the jpc record car. It was lighter than the vette

Btw....29xx does not mean 2900. If you wanted to take a real stab at it to be fair you coulda said 2950 since that is likely close to the troofs. Tho you like no troofs.

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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
No...I know it for a fact. Its in the link. DA was about the same. He never trapped over 130 with e85. was 125-129. First time out on ftw he hit 134. The only change was ftw and retune.

It also dyno over 500 rwhp. In the link as well.

sry...not in the link...on the website if you search his name.
You don't gain 4mph with 20whp gain unless you are at <2000lbs rw.

Other factors you must be missing.
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Coyote = early ls cathedral stuff


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