14' 5.0 vs 5G SS 1LE
09-23-2016, 01:50 PM
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Mike didn't race a red c6z not long ago and beat him up fairly good from a dig. Car was weird though, trapped slower than me and he had intake and tune.
I'm just saying also that tuner looks like he knows how to tune e85. Unless I'm really bad at math that's way more than 9hp
I'm just saying also that tuner looks like he knows how to tune e85. Unless I'm really bad at math that's way more than 9hp
09-23-2016, 04:59 PM
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09-23-2016, 05:45 PM
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Because that was what was claimed, said full weight. Also my car is full weight jack, spare and all
09-23-2016, 06:59 PM
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Mike didn't race a red c6z not long ago and beat him up fairly good from a dig. Car was weird though, trapped slower than me and he had intake and tune.
I'm just saying also that tuner looks like he knows how to tune e85. Unless I'm really bad at math that's way more than 9hp
I'm just saying also that tuner looks like he knows how to tune e85. Unless I'm really bad at math that's way more than 9hp
09-23-2016, 07:37 PM
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Price difference of the 07-09 you can do a **** ton of mods on. Then again, it is for his wife, so maybe little to no mods done. In that case I recommend a newer one as well
09-23-2016, 10:47 PM
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Long stoke small bore raises volumetric efficiency. The issue there lies in having a good enough head to feed it. That's where the 4v coyote head comes in. A longer stroke will take a head to its choking point faster than a shorter stroke even at the same CI. FWIW the coyote actually has a little more stroke than an ls3
Problem with fords DOHC layout is the pewp bore spacing which is extremely CI limiting. There's blocks now supposedly where you can get 400 CI out of a coyote but with the stroke length needed for that you'll need a much better head than a stock coyote casting to feed it properly.
In the end I would agree that the ls3 head layout is superior for maximum hp due to its high CSA and ability to feed a larger engine. Ported ls3 heads flow bętter than ported ls3 castings.
Both are good engine but two different roads to a similar destination. But in the end NA the ls3 is just more capable
Problem with fords DOHC layout is the pewp bore spacing which is extremely CI limiting. There's blocks now supposedly where you can get 400 CI out of a coyote but with the stroke length needed for that you'll need a much better head than a stock coyote casting to feed it properly.
In the end I would agree that the ls3 head layout is superior for maximum hp due to its high CSA and ability to feed a larger engine. Ported ls3 heads flow bętter than ported ls3 castings.
Both are good engine but two different roads to a similar destination. But in the end NA the ls3 is just more capable
. I think we should be 100% honest about are builds and let the better setup win. Max effort SBE shootout. I know we have already talked about this but I think it's gonna be insanely close.
09-23-2016, 10:48 PM
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Thanks man. Your literally one of the few that respect what I am doing. My car and build gets hated on 24/7. Coyotes fail NA,. They need boost....for that money you could go 8s I have heard it all. It's crazy how bad you get hated on for wanting to be different.
09-23-2016, 10:53 PM
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The 07-09s are heavier.. there were also many upgrades in 2011-2012... aluminum block, more power, susoension etc. If she is just looking for a driver and you dont plan on making a speed demon put of it, then the older ones will be fine. My suggestion is to test drive some 07-09s and some 2011-2012s. You can also check out www.fordgt500.com forums. Good info there.
09-23-2016, 11:53 PM
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Coyotes are fine engines. Will they keep up na with a ls3?? Nope......the great part is the ls stuff isn't limited to ls3 stuff. There is ls7 stuff and if one wanted to get really aggressive with a build dr ls heads. They'll flow 100 more cfm than coyote heads. Combine that with the ability to tailor the ls bottom end to the flow capacity of the head there is a deficit the coyote just can't overcome. Especially when cost is involved.
The greatest thing the coyote did was being furds first mass produced engine capable of making 400+whp na with bolt ons. The ls family has been doin that since 2002. Hell i bet even a 01 ls6 would that. For sure the ls2 would...the ls3 does....the ls7 well over 500whp. **** i think i can get to 450whp on pump and make more tq. This is why I'm kinda hohum about them. Don't mean they are bad.....just late to the party.
Long stoke small bore raises volumetric efficiency. The issue there lies in having a good enough head to feed it. That's where the 4v coyote head comes in. A longer stroke will take a head to its choking point faster than a shorter stroke even at the same CI. FWIW the coyote actually has a little more stroke than an ls3
Problem with fords DOHC layout is the pewp bore spacing which is extremely CI limiting. There's blocks now supposedly where you can get 400 CI out of a coyote but with the stroke length needed for that you'll need a much better head than a stock coyote casting to feed it properly.
In the end I would agree that the ls3 head layout is superior for maximum hp due to its high CSA and ability to feed a larger engine. Ported ls3 heads flow bętter than ported ls3 castings.
Both are good engine but two different roads to a similar destination. But in the end NA the ls3 is just more capable
Problem with fords DOHC layout is the pewp bore spacing which is extremely CI limiting. There's blocks now supposedly where you can get 400 CI out of a coyote but with the stroke length needed for that you'll need a much better head than a stock coyote casting to feed it properly.
In the end I would agree that the ls3 head layout is superior for maximum hp due to its high CSA and ability to feed a larger engine. Ported ls3 heads flow bętter than ported ls3 castings.
Both are good engine but two different roads to a similar destination. But in the end NA the ls3 is just more capable
