14' 5.0 vs 5G SS 1LE
09-24-2016, 01:24 AM
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Looks like hammer covered it well for you. I will add that a coyote is a pretty aggressive engine vs a ls3 in a stock vs stock form. It's why you see a 30~ hp or so gains with a set of cams in a coyite vs 60-80 with a ls3. The coyote has 4v per cyl and vvti to help offset it's smaller displacement.
Coyotes are fine engines. Will they keep up na with a ls3?? Nope......the great part is the ls stuff isn't limited to ls3 stuff. There is ls7 stuff and if one wanted to get really aggressive with a build dr ls heads. They'll flow 100 more cfm than coyote heads. Combine that with the ability to tailor the ls bottom end to the flow capacity of the head there is a deficit the coyote just can't overcome. Especially when cost is involved.
The greatest thing the coyote did was being furds first mass produced engine capable of making 400+whp na with bolt ons. The ls family has been doin that since 2002. Hell i bet even a 01 ls6 would that. For sure the ls2 would...the ls3 does....the ls7 well over 500whp. **** i think i can get to 450whp on pump and make more tq. This is why I'm kinda hohum about them. Don't mean they are bad.....just late to the party.
Good poast
Coyotes are fine engines. Will they keep up na with a ls3?? Nope......the great part is the ls stuff isn't limited to ls3 stuff. There is ls7 stuff and if one wanted to get really aggressive with a build dr ls heads. They'll flow 100 more cfm than coyote heads. Combine that with the ability to tailor the ls bottom end to the flow capacity of the head there is a deficit the coyote just can't overcome. Especially when cost is involved.
The greatest thing the coyote did was being furds first mass produced engine capable of making 400+whp na with bolt ons. The ls family has been doin that since 2002. Hell i bet even a 01 ls6 would that. For sure the ls2 would...the ls3 does....the ls7 well over 500whp. **** i think i can get to 450whp on pump and make more tq. This is why I'm kinda hohum about them. Don't mean they are bad.....just late to the party.
Good poast
09-24-2016, 08:44 AM
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09-24-2016, 03:09 PM
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That's a good question......lol Nawz man......they would use nawz
Will await for coyote guys answer.
It's not like the ls3 was anywhere near tapped either. That was about as standard as you can do a ls3. I would've liked to have seen them use stock ls3 heads on the engine labs build. But it would have still easily out powered the coyote.
Will await for coyote guys answer.
It's not like the ls3 was anywhere near tapped either. That was about as standard as you can do a ls3. I would've liked to have seen them use stock ls3 heads on the engine labs build. But it would have still easily out powered the coyote.
09-24-2016, 04:16 PM
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That's a good question......lol Nawz man......they would use nawz
Will await for coyote guys answer.
It's not like the ls3 was anywhere near tapped either. That was about as standard as you can do a ls3. I would've liked to have seen them use stock ls3 heads on the engine labs build. But it would have still easily out powered the coyote.
Will await for coyote guys answer.
It's not like the ls3 was anywhere near tapped either. That was about as standard as you can do a ls3. I would've liked to have seen them use stock ls3 heads on the engine labs build. But it would have still easily out powered the coyote.
09-24-2016, 05:05 PM
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Just like your super duper LS7 trapping 123.x.
09-24-2016, 08:28 PM
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I know there is alot more to it, but my car on 6-7psi made 550 whp and 550 torque SAE through a unlocked 3600 stall. It's essential a ls3 with a 78mm turbo that falls on its face at 6k.
I wonder what a br0 would do with the same amount of air?
And even compare it to a 4.8 with the same air as well at only 293 ci, some guys get pretty good power.
09-24-2016, 08:39 PM
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Damn...Y'all really are a sensitive bunch of delicate vaginas. Wow and lol
09-24-2016, 09:03 PM
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I think for its CI it does pretty good, but better?
I know there is alot more to it, but my car on 6-7psi made 550 whp and 550 torque SAE through a unlocked 3600 stall. It's essential a ls3 with a 78mm turbo that falls on its face at 6k.
I wonder what a br0 would do with the same amount of air?
And even compare it to a 4.8 with the same air as well at only 293 ci, some guys get pretty good power.
I know there is alot more to it, but my car on 6-7psi made 550 whp and 550 torque SAE through a unlocked 3600 stall. It's essential a ls3 with a 78mm turbo that falls on its face at 6k.
I wonder what a br0 would do with the same amount of air?
And even compare it to a 4.8 with the same air as well at only 293 ci, some guys get pretty good power.
I love both motors, shame is so expensive to put cams on a coyote.
09-24-2016, 09:23 PM
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That's a good question......lol Nawz man......they would use nawz
Will await for coyote guys answer.
It's not like the ls3 was anywhere near tapped either. That was about as standard as you can do a ls3. I would've liked to have seen them use stock ls3 heads on the engine labs build. But it would have still easily out powered the coyote.
Will await for coyote guys answer.
It's not like the ls3 was anywhere near tapped either. That was about as standard as you can do a ls3. I would've liked to have seen them use stock ls3 heads on the engine labs build. But it would have still easily out powered the coyote.
09-24-2016, 09:36 PM
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You don't feed to diffetent engines the same amount of air. For christ sakes gmc knew this in the early 1900s. You feed them the air they want. You don't feed a na engine any air. It sucks the amount it wants.
In the engine labs challange for instance the ls3 made like 80 more hp. Now if you run both those engines at 15psi of boost at equal efficiency in theory baring pumping loses or losses due to heat it will double their power.
At what point does the coyote make up any ground?
In the engine labs challange for instance the ls3 made like 80 more hp. Now if you run both those engines at 15psi of boost at equal efficiency in theory baring pumping loses or losses due to heat it will double their power.
At what point does the coyote make up any ground?